Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[witchymumma]

I know some ppl have made comments elsewhere about floppy-ear bun-bois, but I haven't seen the comments myself, and I don't remember seeing any mentioned on this thread yet... and while I don't doubt it's unintentional and will def get fixed at some point (and rightly so), I am still a little curious... how do our floppy-ear bun-bois here feel about their new glow-stick ears? :P

(in case some ppl don't know what I'm talking about, the male viera's floppy ear option has this weird kinda glow to them in certain lighting)



at first, I thought it was only happening on white/light shades of hair (the photos I've seen and my retainer above all had white/light hair) so I tested it on darker hair on another retainer and while not to the same extent/effect as the light shades, the colour difference is still really clear:

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

At risk of sounding petty, I really, really do dislike when peoples' unspoken implication is that something looking more realistic = "better". FFXIV has a distinct artstyle with most (but not all, I know) races having way larger eyes than our own, often shaped in exaggerated ways. This goes for many facial features, really.

One of the only reasons I even felt compelled to post more on the forums is so that I could find any comfort in people feeling the same as me, outside of the circle of friends who I play the game with. A few days ago on reddit I saw a 400+ upvoted comment saying they think the new teeth placement for Lalafell is better because it's more "realistic". Some reply even spoke about how they raised their head in the mirror and found their teeth looked the same way. I couldn't help but think. Just. Whuh. Are you shaped like a Lalafell too? It's not uncanny to them!? I felt like a crazy person!

I'm just gonna quote a comment from... omg lol 30 plus pages ago (this thread is really hot huh?!):

This is a good example of how something that is technically correct actually gives a worse result than something that is technically wrong. The eye glint texture is needed to avoid the uncanny dead look, it doesn't matter that the new system "is more realistic". It doesn't work with the brain's expectation of how it should look.

[Gemina]

Because humans have dark colored cells behind their retinas that absorb light rather than reflect, so a realistic non-nocturnal humanoid's eyes wouldnt reflect light in shadow. We could argue that Hroth and Miq' eyes could structurally resemble a cat's eyes more and have a tapetum lucidum that would reflect light but that may be very difficult to produce a natural appearance at the scale of the game. So if the idea that because the races are humanoid, their eye structure would resemble a human's eyes, they would shine in the dark.

You're correct about the function of the dark cells behind the retina, but that has nothing to do with the light that reflects off of the eye. That has almost entirely to do with mirror-like membrane that the outer eyes are constructed of.

The fact of the matter is light needs to be present in order to determine the color of the iris, so if you can see the color of the eye, it's going to reflect the source of that light back to it. Even my three year old niece recognizes this, and adds a reflection to the eyes she draws and colors.

[Pricia]

Absolutely hate what they did to Hyur midlander females. Face 1 is totally different and, as someone else mentioned, closer to highlander now. I hate it. I always came back to it between fantasias but I guess I will stick to Mi'qote now, but it makes me sad.

[Pricia]

I do not dispute that there are those who are satisfied with this, if you carefully read the forums, that is, those who have not been affected by the changes, or those who have become really more beautiful, let's be honest : 3 and there are those who did not win this lottery *, including me* I will now provide you with some screenshots of my character with whom I have 850 hours /playtime and it follows that I am incredibly attached to someone * yes, I do not play with ARR, which is actually a shame that I learned about this great game relatively recently*, and you will say that you would be happy with this Or not? Or someone else tell me if you would like this character of yours to become like this * if he were yours*, because it seems to me that huyr midlander 1 has changed beyond recognition * I have many friends with this type of face and they are all just cuties, which you can't say after the update *

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i know the difference scenes and etc, but any frame in benchmark with my upgraded wol is terrible, yes :3

Yep, I use the same face. Absolutely hate the change. I won't play Hyur female again.

[FlamboyantAsBurningInferno]

I really like the Female Hrothgar but their shoulders are weird and move unnaturally sometimes and maybe they need a bit of improvement.
Some examples:

[CidHeiral]

when people first started posting about the graphics update, I had the opinion that a lot of people were over reacting. But after going through the benchmark multiple times and reading some of the less inflammatory responses, I see where people are coming from more.

There being legitimate issues and people overreacting aren't mutually exclusive.

It is true that there are problems that should be fixed like the lala upper lip, catgirl fangs, and a number of other little details.

It is also true that people are posting hysterical unhinged comments and comparisons of their "ruined" characters that look practically identical.

I am quite pleased with how the face I use turned out, but it has what I perceive to be a big problem with the lower lip that I would like to see fixed. I could probably zoom in and find a number of other differences, but to imply she looks unrecognizable would be insane. Before anyone says "but your face is one of the good ones" I literally saw a post a minute ago on this forum of someone who hates how this face turned out lol.

Trolling people posting their concerns isn't productive (and no, someone simply disagreeing with you isn't trolling) but neither is saying your benchmark catgirl with a slightly different mouth is an "unrecognizable disgusting joker freak."

[Tengi]

There being legitimate issues and people overreacting aren't mutually exclusive.

It is true that there are problems that should be fixed like the lala upper lip, catgirl fangs, and a number of other little details.

It is also true that people are posting hysterical unhinged comments and comparisons of their "ruined" characters that look practically identical.

I am quite pleased with how the face I use turned out, but it has what I perceive to be a big problem with the lower lip that I would like to see fixed. I could probably zoom in and find a number of other differences, but to imply she looks unrecognizable would be insane. Before anyone says "but your face is one of the good ones" I literally saw a post a minute ago on this forum of someone who hates how this face turned out lol.

Trolling people posting their concerns isn't productive (and no, someone simply disagreeing with you isn't trolling) but neither is saying your benchmark catgirl with a slightly different mouth is an "unrecognizable disgusting joker freak."

I think some of the issues with people are having with the mouths or "my character's jaw changed" is due to the new facial rigging and will be ironed out eventually.

[LlymlaenGreene]

oke :3



Well, I tried to repeat the scene as closely as possible and now I'm really disappointed! The graphical upgrade looks like PS3 version and i am say this, this the worst upgrade for midlander 1 face, this is really freak!!! *this only my opinion, and yes i am a very emotional person, sorry for that* All in new upgrade on this looks terrible!

Please tell me, where is my cute character and what kind of monster did they make of him? Only the skin looks improved and then it looks old, lol! Yes, I declare responsibly, for me this is a downgrade, I'm talking about my character!

[Tengi]

If that character looks like a freak and a monster as you said earlier then I must be an eldritch horror. She's making a determined face in that part of the cutscene while your character is not emoting.