Character graphical changes are NOT in an acceptable state, please make it optional

[GrizzlyTank]

The thing that bothers me most is that it looks like the midlanders have blackheads on their chins.

You... have no idea how blackheads look do you?

[LansEvernovice]

The light male Au Ra Raen scales are too dark with the details sharpened making it all look cluttered and busy! It also doesn't match the much lighter horns.

I also miss the slight contour that helped to frame the face and scale shapes even more, though this detail I can understand not everyone will miss.

[Nulstat]

Outside of some changes with the lips/jaw for female au ra face 1, I don't hate it. My biggest complaint about the raen women seems to have been fixed; they no longer have that awful skin color/scale bleed that made darker colored skin bleed into the edges of the scales, and the result made it overall look like rot. The scales pick up a slight tint from the skin and my silver girl has, at last, slightly silvered scales due to it. I didn't notice any artifacting, but I've seem male xaela mentioning it and I wonder if it's for all. Time to science!

Not really happy with the female miqo'te face 4 changes - the slight lip part and soot nose were key features and why I picked that face for that character, and I'm more than a little sad to see them gone/adjusted. I only played with face 2 keeper female's scars, but the scarring looks weird in a way I can't quite explain, probably that it feels weird for my dark-skinned keeper to have that light/bright of scarring.

I overall don't hate what I'm seeing, but I agree that there are a /lot/ of little things that need to be looked at and adjusted to salvage the individual personalities/identities of the individual faces. I'm also witholding a lot of more severe judgement in favor of seeing the models out and about in the world; my main looked better in the benchmark than in the cc for the benchmark. Lighting makes a difference.

Realistically, I don't spend a lot of time staring at my character's face. My keepers losing their fangs doesn't bug me, their mouths are rarely open that much for me to see it and I can imagine just fine. That doesn't discount that there are things that need to be reviewed, because there are. I hope they are, too. A couple of my characters aren't going to look right, not even with a fantasia. A couple look the same, but better.

[Cheapshot]

Not really happy with the female miqo'te face 4 changes - the slight lip part and soot nose were key features and why I picked that face for that character, and I'm more than a little sad to see them gone/adjusted. I only played with face 2 keeper female's scars, but the scarring looks weird in a way I can't quite explain, probably that it feels weird for my dark-skinned keeper to have that light/bright of scarring.

I'm also a miqo face 4 haver and I'm pretty crushed by what they did. I picked that face because of it's unique charm. The lip part, the creases under the eyes, the more natural brows and lashes. The chubbier face. I loved how sassy and spunky I looked. They removed that individuality and now I just look like a pretty doll like all the rest of the catgirls. Except with a overall matte finish for some reason.


I'm really not a fan. Too many little changes add up and her face just feels so different.

[Fleur]

I don't visit the forums much, but wanted to post some feedback.

Midlander Females: I am very happy with the way Midlander females look, specifically face 5 (the one that was added in ARR). I was planning on fantasia'ing back to Midlander for Dawntrail, and having looked at her in the benchmark I am very excited! I really like her skin texture and the brightness of her eyes. The eyes on this face have a tendency to look like dark soulless pits or deer-in-the-headlights, and IMHO they look more alive now. I did notice that the eye colors seem lighter in general, but since a good chunk of the eye colors available range from "dark" to "staring into the void", this should be an easy fix for anyone that prefers their darker eyes.

Female Miqo'te: IMHO their normally full, rounded cheeks are especially emphasized with this update. I'm glad I'm not going to be a Miqo'te when this update hits, though objectively they are still cute and in general they got a nice glowup.

Lip feedback (general): they do seem a bit less plump (boo!) and paler in general, and I feel like the lip colors are a little more matte and opaque which I am not a fan of. When I choose the "light" option I prefer the look of a tinted lip balm or a light gloss, not a pale lipstick.

Au Ra female eyes: the pupils look larger which I feel gives a more vacant look. They are already cute and have options for larger eyes, they don't need a more "doe eyed" effect from larger pupils. Combined with the less vivid limbal rings (which I personally like), I can see why people are complaining about their eyes looking dull and dead.

I hope SE makes some minor tweaks, but overall I am happy with the changes and think they are generally positive (with many being good, and some less so). I do feel for those that were unlucky and got changes they don't like for their characters. I may have gotten lucky this time, but when we went from 1.0 --> 2.0 my character's face changed just enough that I didn't like it anymore, and I wound up remaking her completely.

[Luluna]

I don't visit the forums much, but wanted to post some feedback.

Midlander Females: I am very happy with the way Midlander females look, specifically face 5 (the one that was added in ARR). I was planning on fantasia'ing back to Midlander for Dawntrail, and having looked at her in the benchmark I am very excited! I really like her skin texture and the brightness of her eyes. The eyes on this face have a tendency to look like dark soulless pits or deer-in-the-headlights, and IMHO they look more alive now. I did notice that the eye colors seem lighter in general, but since a good chunk of the eye colors available range from "dark" to "staring into the void", this should be an easy fix for anyone that prefers their darker eyes.

Female Miqo'te: IMHO their normally full, rounded cheeks are especially emphasized with this update. I'm glad I'm not going to be a Miqo'te when this update hits, though objectively they are still cute and in general they got a nice glowup.

Lip feedback (general): they do seem a bit less plump (boo!) and paler in general, and I feel like the lip colors are a little more matte and opaque which I am not a fan of. When I choose the "light" option I prefer the look of a tinted lip balm or a light gloss, not a pale lipstick.

Au Ra female eyes: the pupils look larger which I feel gives a more vacant look. They are already cute and have options for larger eyes, they don't need a more "doe eyed" effect from larger pupils. Combined with the less vivid limbal rings (which I personally like), I can see why people are complaining about their eyes looking dull and dead.

I hope SE makes some minor tweaks, but overall I am happy with the changes and think they are generally positive (with many being good, and some less so). I do feel for those that were unlucky and got changes they don't like for their characters. I may have gotten lucky this time, but when we went from 1.0 --> 2.0 my character's face changed just enough that I didn't like it anymore, and I wound up remaking her completely.

A lot of what you have stated is how I also feel about the new update. I really like the look of most of the things they have changed. Like yourself I enjoy a pale gloss and I am not a fan of the matte effect on the lips. I also know how you feel when I logged my first ever character who I loved so much into ARR my heart sank as she ported badly and I never played that face again and I used the fantasia...since then I tend to change here and there as I really did miss my Cat from 1.0 and nothing ever clicked since. I can understand player's feeling how they do over it but it was the same for us my Husband changed race also and a few others who I know from 1.0 because of it.

But I do love how my Hyur looks her eyes are a little paler but I will have to get in the game and have a play around.

[Lami_Khatayin]

Yeah so, the Characters got 56 new Face Bones, so of course they "changed" some bit.
Square needs to work on some races, i cant complain about my Lalafell, i think its looks good. But Feedback is important and i hope they will work on some big problems.

[dan_alexandre]

Characters do seem to have baggy tired eyes in some lighting conditions compared to the old (bigger shadows below eyes i think contribute to this)

Overall I like a lot of the updates but there's some races that really need some tweaks here and there.

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[ChaunceyDlamini]

Do y'all think the dev team will respond to any of criticisms before DT releases? I wasn't current during Shadowbringers, I don't know if they showed the fixed male Viera posture before it released or if everyone found out when it went live.