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    EBlaidd's Avatar
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    Eirian Blaidd
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    Dancer Lv 100

    Male Viera, Veena, Face 4 Changes

    I am very, probably too much, in love with how my character looks currently. To me, he is perfect in every way. Most of the time I spend in game, outside of battle, I am simply enjoying and appreciating his beauty. It hit me very hard to see how different he looked. My favorite things about his dramatic eyes and lips are muted or ironed away.

    All feedback here applies to Male Viera, Veena, Face 4

    Main issues:
    • Eye size/shape: eyes appear smaller in 7.0 benchmark vs 6.0. The key feature of a larger eye is now lost, because the prominent eyelid is gone, makeup is softened, and shape appears to have been changed slightly in the inner corner to a closer, more downward slanting shape.
    • Lip shape: lips appear flatter and more rounded in 7.0 vs 6.0 which removes their unique character and distinct look. The shape of the lip color is also very different and much more opaque, the matte texture contributes to the flat appearance.
    • Lower eyelash Facial Feature: lower eyelash feature is black in 6.0 and matches hair in 7.0, which changes the look of the eye very drastically on light-haired characters from what we are used to and contributes to the smaller look of the eye. Black lashes are what we are used to with this face.
    • Eyeliner Tattoo: not as large nor as prominent in 7.0 vs 6.0. Eyeliner has become smaller and less noticeable. Contributes to the overall smaller and weaker appearance of the eyes.

    As someone who likes extremes and dramatic visuals, who chose Face 4 for these Michael-angelo-esque details in the first place, I hope that these issues can be considered. I currently use all these features at max value, so there is no upward adjustment I can make to increase their intensity.

    These features together as they are in Endwalker lend a classical beauty to male viera Face 4 that I hope can be preserved with some changes. Whoever designed this face did so lovingly and with amazing talent, and I hope that their artistic vision and hard work can be preserved.

    Thank you to the Devs for your time and consideration.








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    Face 2 Male Viera and General Male Viera Notes

    Hi! It's my turn to contribute to constructive criticism here.

    First: Though I do understand the numerous complaints about both genders of Viera, I really like how my female bun looks. I won't include a before/after of her because she's not my concern.
    My concern lies within my male Viera, my main, my boy.

    The primary concern is with the lips. It looks like he has lipstick on-- or as my friend put it, my character "actually has lips now". I honestly think this looks like an odd change for lighter skin toned Viera and could use a touch-up.
    I'm not a 3D modeler so my only guess is the color of the lips and maybe the gloss? I wish I could give better suggestions other than that, but my experience with this topic is tiny. The best I can say is make the color of the lips closer to the skin tone so it doesn't look like lipstick
    (Face 2 Male Viera, by the way)

    (<-- Normal | Benchmark-->)


    (Here's a picture of my boy within the benchmark cinematic so mayhap you'll have a better reference of what I mean by 'lipstick' -- This is with No lip color, by the way)


    \|/ With Lip color adjusted (I attempted to make it more like what I expected no lip color to look like)


    Even if changing lip color via the character creation fixes it a bit, I still feel like the lips in general could use a slight touch-up to maybe make it slight more natural appearing.

    I'm sorry I can't give any specific advice. I hope this helps!
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    Valen Arcanaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBlaidd View Post
    I am very, probably too much, in love with how my character looks currently. To me, he is perfect in every way. Most of the time I spend in game, outside of battle, I am simply enjoying and appreciating his beauty. It hit me very hard to see how different he looked. My favorite things about his dramatic eyes and lips are muted or ironed away.

    All feedback here applies to Male Viera, Veena, Face 4

    Main issues:
    • Eye size/shape: eyes appear smaller in 7.0 benchmark vs 6.0. The key feature of a larger eye is now lost, because the prominent eyelid is gone, makeup is softened, and shape appears to have been changed slightly in the inner corner to a closer, more downward slanting shape.
    • Lip shape: lips appear flatter and more rounded in 7.0 vs 6.0 which removes their unique character and distinct look. The shape of the lip color is also very different and much more opaque, the matte texture contributes to the flat appearance.
    • Lower eyelash Facial Feature: lower eyelash feature is black in 6.0 and matches hair in 7.0, which changes the look of the eye very drastically on light-haired characters from what we are used to and contributes to the smaller look of the eye. Black lashes are what we are used to with this face.
    • Eyeliner Tattoo: not as large nor as prominent in 7.0 vs 6.0. Eyeliner has become smaller and less noticeable. Contributes to the overall smaller and weaker appearance of the eyes.

    As someone who likes extremes and dramatic visuals, who chose Face 4 for these Michael-angelo-esque details in the first place, I hope that these issues can be considered. I currently use all these features at max value, so there is no upward adjustment I can make to increase their intensity.

    These features together as they are in Endwalker lend a classical beauty to male viera Face 4 that I hope can be preserved with some changes. Whoever designed this face did so lovingly and with amazing talent, and I hope that their artistic vision and hard work can be preserved.

    Thank you to the Devs for your time and consideration.








    Male Viera Face 4 user here as well. I joined the forums to say this but you've beaten me to it, and you've stated my own thoughts far more eloquently than I could have. Face 4 is absolutely gorgeous, and I'm genuinely concerned about the features being changed so drastically. My character looks like an off brand version of himself now.
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    Last edited by Valenaux; 04-17-2024 at 12:39 PM. Reason: grammar