Viera Changes

[HoratioNelson]

They did it... they finally made me use the official forum.

My girl has sausage lips now

I never thought I'd be using the forums either but here we are...
My girl got massacred using Face 4 as well. Hoping to find another who shares the same thought's I had.
I'm using face 4 mouth 3. Lips now look like they had injections... The lipstick also feels really awful now in comparison.




Everyone else I've asked says they barely see a difference. All I hope is that this is a work in progress.

[Kouren]

I hadn't noticed until I went to make a proper visual comparison, but Face 3 also has an altered (more rounded) chin shape, and the eyes I'm using (Style 4) have an altered shape because the eyelashes are faint and sparse.




Anyway. I hate to repeat all the complaints I've already shared so I'll leave it with a visual comparison to go with the text. Endwalker on the left and Dawntrail on the right, if that wasn't obvious.

[Valetch]

Hello! Made a forum account to talk about this ^^

Cons:

Glowstick ears

I'm uncertain if this was intentional or not, but in certain lighting the ears look like glowsticks?

Lips

The lips now have a lot less depth to them/appear washed out but have a stronger color, I have tried messing with the lip color options and between light/dark there's not really a way to get a natural looking pinky/red lip that reflects what he used to have.

Eyes

The eyelashes have become a lot more sparse even with the lashes setting checked. The eyeshine is less of an issue but I will admit in certain lighting (if not all) it makes him appear more lifeless/soulless.

Eyebrows

The eyebrows are incredibly more sparse now, which is not very flattering on my boy especially with his light hair. I hope for an eyebrow color toggle so I can darken the hair color a bit so they come back!

Strange Lighting

In a lot of the lighting its making my character look a lot more, harsh? Than he normally looks. It washes out the already light eyebrows, and intensifies the darkness around the nose. Previously he was able to look good in these areas, but due to the lighting updates it now looks very unnatural and strange. I feel like due to this lighting he's loss depth in a lot of places that he used to have some, making him look very flat.

Mole

Self evident but something went wrong with his mole

Watching the actual benchmark didn't really fix a lot of these issues either, and you can start to tell just how inconsistent he looks, the starting scene did NOT help his lifeless eyes at all LOL

Pros:

He looks less cursed and actually decent in exactly this angle and lighting from the Limsa character creator BG.

Overall in basically every other lighting he looks worse to me, I've tried to mess with the gamma, and to mess with the color settings of his lips/eyes/hair with little success of getting rid of the "weirdness".

[Fizz1022]

This is ridiculous and needs to be changed. They really messed up the eyes, lips and skin lighting. Now my bunny looks soulless and deaD.

And no this is not a character creation lighting issue. My character looks so different and off even in the benchmark.

[thlurp]

I feel like I wasn't shafted nearly as much as others on here but it still hurts to see how dirty they did my rava boy, especially when he looks perfectly fine as a veena TT. I've heard heaps of people talking about how the graphics update will fix all the issues with darker skin tones but it still feels like the same is happening again :C. Why does he look simultaneously ashy *and* covered in oil, and the skin looks so translucent and textureless. The extra shine on the nose makes the nose look even less viera-like than it already does, and the eye whites being so much lighter than 6.58 makes him look uncanny from far away.

veena for comparison (why is the skin so much better TT):

and original for comparison (I'm shocked by how much warmer the La Noscean Lighting is here too what happened :C):

[Ridaine]

God, I really hope it's an oversight on behalf of QA. I can live with everything else but the eyes on Veena being the same as Raava is absolutely criminal and something I refuse to live with.

I hate to say but I actually like that I can tell what colour my Veena's eyes are now. Even if they made the pupils bigger but kept some actual saturation it'd be fine, but in pre- 7.0 I have light pink eyes and everyone (and I mean everyone) thinks they're grey or olive green (somehow) unless looking EXTREMELY closely. I'd like if they could keep some saturation and brightness to them while having some distinction, but I'd prefer what we have now over the dull muddied eye texture we had before.

[puratsu]

Well, I'm not sure why, but the tattoo I used for my Viera boy's look is also totally weird now; I couldn't recreate it the same way in the character creator, and I fear the only way to do so is lightening his skin color which I DON'T want to do, so I hope they can at the least fix this since it seems simple enough. (Sorry about difference in image size)

Before

After


The nose changes are a crime as well... Looking at all of the before and afters, the large majority of Viera looked way better before! Please fix this, Square...

[IronCheeks]

Adding my mutilated girl to the thread as proof of how shafted we were. I genuinely don't understand how this passed QA. I hope SE listens to player feedback and YoshiP delays the release of Dawntrail to put more time into fixing these awful face "updates." I'm absolutely, 100% willing to wait longer for a higher quality experience than this. The current graphics look like an improvement to the new ones.

And, before anyone comes in saying "bUt ThE BenChMarK": I've tweaked graphics settings, changed gamma, tweaked colors on my character itself, ran the benchmark to see her in different lighting- absolutely none of it fixes bad textures, bad shaders, and bad model updates.

For me, it's the lips. My character uses those lips and just doens't look the same anymore. They went form having shape to just being a poorly drawn oval. Like a doppelganger took their place.

[SquidzureDragoon]

I am soooooo unhappy with the Viera changes. My bunboy looks absolutely soulless now. His lips are way darker than before and it just... He does not look like the same guy. First image is from when I first made my bunboy in the ew benchmark. The following two images are from the dt benchmark. He looks waxy and lifeless now. He lacks emotion and he does not look like my viera anymore. I tried my best to get as close to the angle and camera position as I could from the screenshot, but it's not exactly the same.

I don't understand why they had to change such small things. Update the graphics, yes, please, just don't change things that really didn't need to be changed, like taking the life out of his eyes and giving him wax lips.

[SquidzureDragoon]

I do think it helps to look at them in the actual benchmark cutscene. CharGen lighting is always rough, imo, I was a little apprehensive until I saw them in action. Having been through some rough character model updates in Destiny and Warframe that completely ruined my look, I'm pleasantly surprised by how good my pair came out.

The actual trailer and not the character creator is how I first viewed my bunboy, but he just looks...awful... He really looks like he's a wax figure or something. He doesn't look like the same bunboy.