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Thread: Viera Changes

  1. #61
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    Vivian Rysto
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    I really don't know what to say. I'm delighted with how significant and huge the upgrade is.

    My character has never looked better.




    It's also hard for me because I think you guys have wonderful new buns.
    Gale's in page one looks great, Declan, Nathaniel, Kira, Avi and Ackerman, and I also told Novarim in another thread.

    Sadly, it doesn't matter how they look to me, but how they look to you guys, because it's your characters.

    I can see a case being made for more significant eye glow, and darkening some skin tones a bit, but I honestly think SE did an amazing job with the update.

    I don't know what else I can say.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 04-15-2024 at 04:06 AM.

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    Indi Xindehl
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    Not sure why my images aren't showing - The beauty mark for me shows up as just a small, straight line. It doesn't appear to be connected to any other facial feature, so I'm not sure what's causing the problem.

    Here's a link in case pics still aren't working. https://imgur.com/gallery/pcXQPgB
    I never post to the forum and this is why lol


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  3. #63
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    Sierra Karn
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    The update changed the way my lips and nose look, and I absolutely hate it. It's awful. It sucks.


    Also, they changed the way highlights work for hairstyles that have multiple versions (i.e. bangs/no bangs) and instead of doing it the way they did previously where each hairstyle had unique highlights, they just... gave them the exact same highlights and called it a day.


    Was this update outsourced or something?
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    Nashmira Ni
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    Quote Originally Posted by TornadoTorrie View Post
    Another thing that I haven't seen being touched on yet is it looks like they haven't increased the textures on the ears as much/at all compared to the hair (at least for ear 4), which is painfully obvious when they sit right next to each other on the head
    Oh no! You're so right, they DID forget to update the ear textures!

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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndiXindehl View Post
    Not sure why my images aren't showing
    You need to go to the three dots at the top right corner of your image (not the overall post), click and pick "Copy Link" and then add .png at the end.

    Like so!
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    THANK YOU SM yes that's the beauty mark glitch i'm having!
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    Declan Larkstep
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redgate View Post
    The update changed the way my lips and nose look, and I absolutely hate it. It's awful. It sucks.


    Also, they changed the way highlights work for hairstyles that have multiple versions (i.e. bangs/no bangs) and instead of doing it the way they did previously where each hairstyle had unique highlights, they just... gave them the exact same highlights and called it a day.


    Was this update outsourced or something?
    I have this EXACT problem with the braided pixie cut on my femViera!! It's really upsetting because the bulk of the other graphical changes I either like on my WoL or don't mind, but the complete change in her hair highlight patterning is ruining it for me. She objectively looks extremely different.
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    Quetz Cerro
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    At first I was absolutely devastated, but now I'm more mixed. The character creator seems to have some really wonky lighting. After watching the benchmark trailer I realized it was not nearly as bad as I initially thought, but I still have some issues. Here are some side by sides with my WoL:


    The biggest problem that I'm noticing across bunny players is the lips!! There's a lack of lip definition and shine that just changes the vibe of the face I chose (face 1), and many others. The detail at the outer corners of the lips being gone on faces like M Viera face 1 change the entire look of the face. They also seem a lot darker and duller, perhaps because of the lack of shine. I admit the lip shape looks better in the trailer, but there was a poutiness to the lips that just doesn't exist anymore in the update!! I chose this face because of how angry it looked, but now it looks a lot more... smooth.

    As for the eyes, I don't mind the lack of eye shine as much as it's fitting for my WoL, but I know that it's not fitting for everyone's. The new catchlight is so lovely, I hope they make edits so its much more visible because it never is. I have more of a problem with the nose, and the added darkening. It's MUCH darker than the current version, which is weird because the darker nose can be an optional face feature, too. I think it can be cute, but again, it is vastly different from the current appearance of viera. Another thing I notice with the noses is how the nose bridges don't have as much of a highlight, so it falls flat against the rest of the face. I think that plays into why character creation tends to make our characters look like they have a flash shining right in their face. When the light isn't right, the definition in the texture isn't there to make up for it. Here's two examples of what I mean, in two types of lighting:



    Despite my complaints, I'm a huge fan of this graphics update overall! I think things like clothes, world textures, and even character textures are really benefiting from this. I hope that they can tweak it more to make it so some of the facial features, specifically on viera, do not feel so drastically different. I look forward to Dawntrail and any changes that may come in the future!
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  9. 04-15-2024 04:48 AM
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    Benchmark Character Creation with Bad Lighting:



    Benchmark Cutscene with some Edits:



    I might be able to live with this!
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    Last edited by Ayaime; 04-15-2024 at 05:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    I really don't know what to say. I'm delighted with how significant and huge the upgrade is.

    My character has never looked better.




    It's also hard for me because I think you guys have wonderful new buns.
    Gale's in page one looks great, Declan, Nathaniel, Kira, Avi and Ackerman, and I also told Novarim in another thread.

    Sadly, it doesn't matter how they look to me, but how they look to you guys, because it's your characters.

    I can see a case being made for more significant eye glow, and darkening some skin tones a bit, but I honestly think SE did an amazing job with the update.

    I don't know what else I can say.
    I'm really glad you like your bun in the new update! I honestly like how almost every other aspect of Declan looks in the update (especially when running the benchmark trailer) EXCEPT the removal/alteration of her hair highlights patterning. It's not a subtle change or something I can alter with something like gamma correction or any other client-side abilities, and is a significant change in her appearance that doesn't constitute a "graphical improvement" rather than a complete design change and is visible a mile away. Her braid and bangs highlights are really lovely to me and to have them wholesale deleted is pretty disappointing.
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