Viera Changes

[LaraWildstone]

I usually just observe the forums but this graphical update pushed me to actually create a forum account to also voice my concern. I feel like this graphical update ripped all of the personality out of the viera and an *almost all* downgrade.

I was most concerned about the nose when the photos were first released. The lighting and the shadows on the nose just don't feel like they are working in harmony with each other and it just looks... bad? I also absolutely hate the eyes, I feel like there is something off about them. It is almost as if the graphic update erased the detail in the original eyes. The new face in general is just so off-putting in comparison to what it was before. I have seen some vieras look good with the change, but the majority look *very* different in the benchmark and not different in a good way.

I'm not here to complain, I just simply want to voice my concerns after noticing that so many others feel the same way. Even a small change to bring the personality back to the way that vieras looked before the benchmark would be amazing!

[Luca_]

I also absolutely hate the eyes, I feel like there is something off about them. It is almost as if the graphic update erased the detail in the original eyes.

I'm pretty sure a lot of the weirdness with eyes can be blamed on removing the painted catchlights for the sake of "realism," which I guess means having no shine at all in most lighting conditions because the sun isn't blasting directly into your character's eyes. It looks very creepy.

[sydthegamer]

I will say after consistently looking at my Viera which is my main I have grown to really like how she looks!. I do feel like they look less expressive which is a bit disappointing but I do like that dark eyeliner-looking feature at the top of their eyes. I think that contributes to the less expressive look but maybe that’s how Viera are supposed to be portrayed? But I will say…THEIR LIPS! I feel as though for Face Option 1 with Lip Option 2...Lip Option 2 looks like smaller lips in the benchmark compared to the current lips and I don't really like that at all. I want her to have thicker and more defined lips and I think they did nerf that quite a bit on the Viera models compared to other races. I will say however they've done an amazing job with the darker skin tones that Viera have. I was messing around with the skin tones and looking at them in different light and they did an amazing job. I'd like to see how Fran looks now in the game. First image is the benchmark and second is the current Endwalker patch.

[Cheenchilla]

I don't want to be dramatic, but I'm actually heartbroken by the changes to bunnies.
I cannot understand how with a graphical upgrade characters have ended up looking downgraded

1. the eyes are horrible. they have no depth.
2. i haven't seen anyone mention it, but the sides of face 3 just look dirty! like he's been rolling in the mud.
3. the nose is a disaster. face 3 nose was so cute, and now the dark marking has changed the shape of the nose and it just looks bad
4. the chin of face 3 is awful. why such a bobbly chin?
5. the lips. the lips were so perfectly shaped before and now they've lost the shape and they are so flat
6. depth of makeup has gone.
7. everything just looks so dull and absolutely bland and ugly. All the depth that was there before has gone.

They've implemented weird plastic skin on characters as well, nuking out any actual definition that previously existed on the models, that's in no way an upgrade.

I feel like we've stepped back in time, not moved forward in regards of detail and definition.
Why mess with something that was so perfect to begin with *sobbing*
I asked my partner (who does not play the game) which characters looked higher quality between everyone screenshots, and 95% of the time he thought the current ones did.

Please bring in all the changes to environments and armour, looks amazing, but leave the characters faces alone. I am actually begging you SE, on my knees begging.

[Cherrizini]

I must admit that althought I've come to accept the changes, it deeply hurts me that Veena face 3 has lost some of its doll features. I mainly picked this face because it reminded me of Blythe dolls, which I adore and collect. Veena face 3 was the perfect fit for the look I was going for and now it is mostly gone. The eyeliner is too heavy, the pupils are too small, the lips are basically lines, the sparkless eyes make them look souless, and if you have a light haired veena, say goodbye to your eyebrows because those will be non-existent.



I still have some hope they will revert these changes to veena. A benchmark like this should have been released sooner, not two months before release.

[CoraCallisto]

I am fine with most of the changes and know that lighting and textures will change a lot of things by default. But I am upset about the lip shape changes, both my husband and I's characters had shape to their lips but in the benchmark have a generic lip shape.

[Thrawn21]

I'm pretty happy with how my bun turned out. It's a slightly different look and the lips will take some getting used to, but overall I like it.





There isn't much reflection in his eyes in the benchmark CC, but that might be partially due to the hairstyle. It would be nice if they could add a little more eye reflection to give more life to his expression, especially for characters that have hair covering part of their face.

The detail of the clothing and hair look amazing in the benchmark CC, but his hair does look a little flat with less shine. It also seems more blonde than grey, so I may need to adjust that myself, but overall I'm happy with how he looks.

[Audson]

Hello! I'm here to offer a bit of feedback on the state of male Viera faces in the benchmark. My biggest issue is that only face type 2 has a halfway decent smile. While you could say the smile is more of a smirk, I would prefer to have a genuine smile when emoting happiness.

From skimming the previous posts, a common theme seems to be centered around the lips. I agree with this observation.

Face Type 1


Face Type 2


Face Type 3


Face Type 4


Character creation settings used:
- Height: 63
- Face: #1, #2, #3 or #4
- Skin Color: RGB 198, 148, 126
- Hairstyle: #13
- Hair Color: RGB 78, 43, 15
- Hair Color (Highlights): RGB 78, 34, 13
- Jaw: #1
- Eye Shape: #3
- Iris Size: Small
- Eye Color: RGB 130, 147, 184
- Eyebrows: #2
- Nose: #1
- Mouth: #3
- Lip Color: Light & RGB 207, 134, 127
- Ear Shape: #1
- Ear Length: 66
- Facial Features: #1 (eyebrows thicker)
- Tattoos: None
- Tattoo Color: RGB 227, 189, 172 (If I could use the feather face tattoo for all face types, I would. But that's only on face type 1)
- Face Paint: None
- Face Paint Color: RGB 190, 115, 146
- Voice: #6

Please note: These screenshots have been enhanced with NVIDIA filters.

[CamuiKushi]

Please note: These screenshots have been enhanced with NVIDIA filters.

Are these settings in the Nvidia control panel under the 3D area? I've been scared to play with those. Do you have any recommendations?