Viera Changes

[anzumajo]

Absolutely agreeing with my previous posters, the changes to Viera faces of both genders were absolutely horifying and I genuinely do not recognize my character again.



Just a list of things that absolutely irk me:
- Lack of dimension in lips
-> Lack of gloss in lipstick (main reason for picking lipstick in the first place)
- Pupils are WAY to contracted, used to be more dilated
- The "glow" of the eyes is too heavy and too saturated, gives the whole look a very unrealistic feel, perhaps it's just an effect because of the small size of the pupils
- Nose contouring is too dark on Veena but too light on Raava.
- The shadow cast on the upper part of the eyeball is WAY too dark, it'd need to be toned down a notch.



Went into the benchmark with the expectation of thinking that she'd look like the left but instead was left with the right. For me it'd be fixed if the pupils went back to their former size, it'd restore most of the visual appeal of face 3 for me. But a fantasia wouldn't be enough, I might have to actually switch races if this is left unadressed, it's really disappointing to see.

[Incuboy]

So overall I'd say my character looks pretty ok with the new graphics however there are a few things I've noticed which I'm not too fond of and would like to address.

1. Probably my biggest issue is that the eyeliner tattoo (tattoo 1) is a lot lighter and blurry compared to before where it is darker and sharper. I'd like to hope that they will adjust this so it is more prominent like it was previously but we'll just have to see.

2. In certain lighting, typically in shadows, skin will look really bright as if it's glowing slightly which just looks odd. This is probably an issue across the board for all races. Skin also can look like plastic in some situations such as the shot on the boat at the start of the benchmark.

3. Shadows around the chin and jaw blend in a lot with the neck which gives the impression that the face is blending into the neck (visible in environment 3 of the character creation.)

4. The lips look pretty off. This might just be because they look different to what I'm used to, but it was probably the first thing I noticed when I went into the character creator. The colour of them looked a little too dark which could be adjusted by changing to a slightly lighter shade. Whether this was how they were intended to look all along or not I don't know but it threw me off a bit. They also look much less glossier. Honestly they should just add a lip gloss slider.

5. The textures on the 4th ears look really blurry and pixelated which doesn't really work well with the hair textures which are vastly improved.

I'm no expert and I'm not gonna pretend like I know how these things work but I feel like having darker shadows in places would help certain features feel more prominent, like with the chin looking fused to the neck for example. I'd also really like to see the eyeliner tattoo be improved. Having it look so blurry and the black (colour 8) looking so light really detracts from it.

I think that some sliders should be implemented in the character creator menu. I've noticed lots of people taking issue with the eyes looking lifeless. I personally don't have many problems with the eyes however a slider could be added which simply changes how lively they look.

I'd really appreciate if they made some adjustments regarding the things I've pointed out. Overall, I'm happy that SE is giving us this update I just think it could do with quite a bit of work.

Benchmark:


In-game:

[Seliana]

These are the same data import, and I'm just... so torn about the graphics update mainly on the lips for female Viera face 4. It honestly looks like they were trying to replicate Gaia's lips on them. There is no pout or curved cupids bow on them which causes them to look like a completely different person. I may have to lower the color a bit for my character's eyes, but I can't fix the lips since there are not many options that are close to the original model... I really hope they will fix this issue at some point, because this is very disheartening to see

Current Model:






Benchmark:

[nordiclania]

These are the same data import, and I'm just... so torn about the graphics update mainly on the lips for female Viera face 4. It honestly looks like they were trying to replicate Gaia's lips on them. There is no pout or curved cupids bow on them which causes them to look like a completely different person. I may have to lower the color a bit for my character's eyes, but I can't fix the lips since there are not many options that are close to the original model... I really hope they will fix this issue at some point, because this is very disheartening to see

Current Model:






Benchmark:

Those lips look like someone did a bad job overlining them. T_T I'm so sorry for your character... Also, where is the gloss and the slight changes in color? It's just one big, bold, matte lip.

[Seliana]

They put too much setting powder, and used a unsharpened lip liner pencil on her lips

[Spooky_Biscuits]

These are the same data import, and I'm just... so torn about the graphics update mainly on the lips for female Viera face 4. It honestly looks like they were trying to replicate Gaia's lips on them. There is no pout or curved cupids bow on them which causes them to look like a completely different person. I may have to lower the color a bit for my character's eyes, but I can't fix the lips since there are not many options that are close to the original model... I really hope they will fix this issue at some point, because this is very disheartening to see

Current Model:






Benchmark:

All expression is gone for real

[CorrinSyrup]

First image is current and the second image is benchmark. I don't even know where to start!! For the most part the smoothing on the hair and ears is really nice, but when it comes to the eyes and lips, which is where like ALL the expression comes from, they feel entirely flat! The lips have almost no shading, they have lost all definable shape from the OG picture and they just look painted on! The lip line on the benchmark image is literally just a completely straight line which you can clearly see is very defined and organic on the original.

The eyes come across as very blank and unfeeling. I feel like I have a little more leniency with them because I can kind of tell that the dev team was going for more dynamic reflections depending on your surroundings (?) not too sure about that one but still. To me, she feels more like a doll. Where she's all done up and pretty but lacks a lot of the life and charm the original has even in a simple neutral pose.

[SquidzureDragoon]

I'm SO sad about how my bunboy's nose just looks dirty instead of like it has cute bunny fuzz TT__TT Also his lips seem sooooo much darker than before and it throws me off. I'm not very fond of it. The viera looked fine before and really didn't need an overhaul. The eyes look dead after losing the catchlight. Just update the graphics, not change features (looking at you poor moon keeper miqo'te havers. my sympathies for your fangs)

[AmamiyaSakura]

One of the things I liked most about my character is gone.

I loved how expressive her eyes were, but in the benchmark, they appeared flat and lifeless. I also liked how defined her eyelashes were, but now they look blurred. Lips have also lost their sheen, which I felt was one of her charm points.

Please consider this feedback before releasing the changes.