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  1. 04-15-2024 04:33 PM

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    Raina Moonrivers
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    Maduin
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    Face 2 female Viera. Not super pleased with the flatness of the face. She is missing a certain warmth and roundness that she possessed previously. Her lips have minimal dimension, shape, or shading. I mean... it isn't awful, and I'm sure a lot of work went into this, but I think it missed the mark. She's not the character I originally created and that's disappointing. I hope things improve before launch.

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    Last edited by Rainnea; 04-15-2024 at 05:12 PM. Reason: Added photos

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    Elenora Ashdale
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    Louisoix
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I originally made my Viera with big candid eyes to reflect the way she was discovering the world around her. I've always had this idea in mind of her learning how the world works and being welcoming, heart warming despite all odds. Which was great given the story actually turned out to fit perfectly around this.
    With the update it feels she lost all her warmness and candid face. She has a stern cold look, and can't stop smirking. It feels like another character entirely.







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    Last edited by Neva_Eilhart; 04-15-2024 at 05:02 PM.

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    Fevla Valkyrie
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    Veena: Face 4

    I really am displeased with how my Veena turned out, her lips are terrible for one. Her eyebrows look to be painted on. The skin being.. flat also makes her look more harsh, and well, lifeless. It feels like she's lost all her visual personality.

    The Veena pupils being smaller is also really disheartening, I really am a fan of the small differences between the 'clan' options in game.

    During the benchmark cutscenes, it helped her look a bit better than the character creator, but those lips man.

    The first picture is current, the second picture is benchmark.



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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I love that Veena now have bright eyes like Rava, not arguing against anyone that doesn't like it because if you liked the older ones they're very different now so that's entirely fair, but for me personally that is a big upgrade. And other than a few exceptions that have some wonkiness, I think the hair looks wonderful as well.

    My biggest complaints though are the eyebrow textures, and the lips. The lips have lost that subtle curve between the lips, it's a straight line now that changes the expression of the mouth and makes them look more sausage like.

    Eyebrows already had kind of poor definition, and Veena especially has sparse and thin brows, but now they also became so... smudgy? I also tried it on one of my Rava presets, and it's way too easy to make your eyebrows melt into your skin now even with their fuller brows.

    In the live game right now it was already a little difficult to make them show if you want to have lightly tanned skin and a creamy blonde hair, but now even the compromised skin + hair I settled on doesn't work anymore. Even in the benchmark lighting.

    Face 3 Veena for reference.

    How she looks now vs. after



    Browless and confused in the benchmark

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    Last edited by Yencat; 04-15-2024 at 06:19 PM.

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    Luca Donten
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    Sage Lv 90


    I was lucky that my viera remained pretty much unscathed, he still looks great after the update even though he does suffer a bit from the lip issues, just not as prominently as many others. I also personally like that face 3 got more prominent nose marking but not everyone is happy about that, it should be optional. Still really sad how dirty they did vieras with this. I hope they will at the very least address the mouth situation before the release.

    Also it's so weird because in the fanfest preview the updated viera looks much better than what we got?? How did they come out so drastically different in the benchmark?

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    Nashmira Ni
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by suikka View Post
    [IMG]Also it's so weird because in the fanfest preview the updated viera looks much better than what we got?? How did they come out so drastically different in the benchmark?

    Oh wow.. The FF preview does look vastly different to what was in the benchmark..
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    Rensei Arashi
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    Famfrit
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    Dragoon Lv 79

    Before / After
    • There's that glitch with the beauty mark on male face 3 where it just shows up as a thin black line.
    • The flat mouth line removes detail and makes the lips look less defined.
    • His eyebrows have been lightened and look sparser.
    • The inner corner of the eyes has been shortened, which noticeably changes the eye shape.
    • Eyeliner shape is jagged.
    • The bunny nose detail has been darkened (at least on his fair complexion). Personally, I actually don't have an issue with how it looks, but I do agree that this should be something that players should be able to toggle.
    • His lashes also seem sparser? This is especially noticeable in the lower lashes.

    Overall, the face also just feels like it lacks dimension now. Obviously, some of this has to do with the lighting changes, but there's something to be said about how these other minor changes to the model are definitely not helping.
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    Peanut Colada
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I think I look much better now in Dawntrail
    DT
    EW

    The blush is less noticeable now but that could be due to lighting, and the new bone structure will take getting used to but I adore the better freckles. very much looking forward to DT
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    Last edited by Cahlum; 04-15-2024 at 07:34 PM.

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    Elladan Galathil
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    Omega
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    Bard Lv 100
    My friend recreated my viera yesterday in the character creator, and I was excited because the previews I had seen looked beautiful. Sadly, I was severely disappointed.

    One of my favourite features about my viera were the white eyelashes, matching the hair color. In the benchmark, they are severely toned down. It drastically changes his appearance. The lower lashes don't even seem to be white anymore at all.
    I also feel like the overall look is very harsh. The nose has been darkened. The lips are less defined and appear flat, they lost their shine, and the colors are dark and muddy. I think an option for lip shine would be perfect, since I personally don't like the matte look.

    I just miss the softer and more androgynous look of my original viera.


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