Viera Changes

[Kogekigami]

I picked face three originally forthe beautymark and the more defined jawline but now i can't unsee the chin ball now too he looks so bloated and streached in the benchmark only way to fix it was complete face change... so upsetting ngl

[IvoryHawk]

Why has my viera been downgraded so much?

I had to change face completely to try and fix him which meant loosing his beauty mark which is sad. Can we not get some of the facial features like colour lashes, beauty marks and scars made universal across the faces if we are gonna have to make drastic changes to our characters like this?

Best I could do to fix him...

holy crap that looks like PS4 vs Switch version, buns look really flat in colour too

[Lusarae]

I noticed some similar strangeness on my Raava Viera character's eyes too- it's like there is a weird super dark "half-moon" over the top part of her eye that really changes how her resting expression looks.

Her skin is also constantly glowing as well in the character creator, which looks very odd on a character who is supposed to have deep skin, but this at least seemed to be mostly alleviated in the actual benchmark test scenes.

The most significant issue I have with the update is the drastic change that was made to my character's hairstyle, specifically the highlights:



The front of her fringe and her braid have had their highlights completely removed and I'm kind of devastated. As you mentioned, this isn't something I have any ability to change as it is inherent to the hairstyle itself which is extremely frustrating.

On one hand, the new one looks SO much better. On the other hand... it should be a choice. I'm curious why we don't get like two or three different options for where the secondary hair color area is on every hairstyle?

[Kimitu]

I'm extremely conflicted with these changes to my viera. My darker skinned character here has had her bunny nose entirely removed, not to mention the big difference in eye colour? Her nose and face look blurry, and the new lipstick looks god awful. I wonder how they managed to mess things up this badly. I have been incredibly happy with my viera design for years now, and to have her face changed to something worse feels heartbreaking to me. She looks lifeless and like she's constantly frowning. I kinda understand why because look at those flat and dimensionless lips??



I am truly saddened to see my bunny nose removed like this, it's one of my favourite features of viera aside from the ears. We seriously got so shafted...

[Kurpse]

I have been incredibly happy with my viera design for years now, and to have her face changed to something worse feels heartbreaking to me. She looks lifeless and like she's constantly frowning.

I couldn't have put it better.. It's so sad!

[Masocheese]

Feel like they need to make the eyebrows stronger, the hair colors less grey and by far give me less round lips.
But I'd be happy if just the lips became less "full" these are the least full lips of face 4 and they already feel inflated.

[Rhose]

The update completely destroyed him..... Please I am begging you to fix this

[sealsick]

At first I was absolutely devastated, but now I'm more mixed. The character creator seems to have some really wonky lighting. After watching the benchmark trailer I realized it was not nearly as bad as I initially thought, but I still have some issues. Here are some side by sides with my WoL:


The biggest problem that I'm noticing across bunny players is the lips!! There's a lack of lip definition and shine that just changes the vibe of the face I chose (face 1), and many others. The detail at the outer corners of the lips being gone on faces like M Viera face 1 change the entire look of the face. They also seem a lot darker and duller, perhaps because of the lack of shine. I admit the lip shape looks better in the trailer, but there was a poutiness to the lips that just doesn't exist anymore in the update!! I chose this face because of how angry it looked, but now it looks a lot more... smooth.

As for the eyes, I don't mind the lack of eye shine as much as it's fitting for my WoL, but I know that it's not fitting for everyone's. The new catchlight is so lovely, I hope they make edits so its much more visible because it never is. I have more of a problem with the nose, and the added darkening. It's MUCH darker than the current version, which is weird because the darker nose can be an optional face feature, too. I think it can be cute, but again, it is vastly different from the current appearance of viera. Another thing I notice with the noses is how the nose bridges don't have as much of a highlight, so it falls flat against the rest of the face. I think that plays into why character creation tends to make our characters look like they have a flash shining right in their face. When the light isn't right, the definition in the texture isn't there to make up for it. Here's two examples of what I mean, in two types of lighting:



Despite my complaints, I'm a huge fan of this graphics update overall! I think things like clothes, world textures, and even character textures are really benefiting from this. I hope that they can tweak it more to make it so some of the facial features, specifically on viera, do not feel so drastically different. I look forward to Dawntrail and any changes that may come in the future!

[Spooky_Biscuits]

I feel the same way a lot of people have said so far. I love my WoL and she's always been a Viera. I don't want to have to race change her because of this but it is too blatant of an issue to just try and accept and deal with. I know this sounds like an extreme reaction but we get attached to our characters, understandably so. Even if they fixed the lighting issues that cause them to look flat and "dead inside" the changes in things that gave them character will still remain. The lip shape is my main issue. The cute and charming curves, gone and replaced with lip filler thats not even smooth line wise. Also the eyes being smaller gives an awkward uncanny valley feel. Essentially these cahracters no longer have the experesions they once did in place of what? Nicer hair textures? (which they didnt even extend to the ears btw)

Like I said, it may seem like an extreme reaction but this has killed all hype I had for DT release. Really not feelin this and I hope they listen to the feedback but I have a sinking feeling that won't be the case. Mostly because m. viera didnt get hit as hard and its mostly the lighting fixes that need to be tended to, and other races actually seem to be getting positive feedback. They didn't care about viera thus far with other limitations, why would they now. Id much rather keep old graphics and retain what they look like now then be forced to this butchered "upscale"
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Benchmark:

[Rugno]

"When did the light fade from your eyes?"


But seriously. my girl went from to :[
I don't know if I can play like this.