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    Kurpse's Avatar
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    Nashmira Ni
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    Sage Lv 100

    Viera Changes

    Personally, I'm REALLY unhappy with how the Viera changes have turned out. The lighting is.. strange? My character seems to be constantly illuminated regardless of being in shadow. That's not a major issue compared to the eyes.. OH GOD THE EYES!

    She looks dead behind the eyes. Her eyes look like they're constantly half closed, which is caused by a shadow on the upper half of the eye. Previously her eyes seemed bright and open, now they feel dark, closed and just kinda.. sad? Her eyelashes look mushy or something. The darkness on the eyes makes this issue worse and overall completely changes the look of the character.

    The problem is that these are things that can't be fixed by a fantasia. These is no way to correct those issue because they're things we have no control over in the character creation.

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    Gale Eldingar
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    Bunnies are just NOT okay.

    They share the same problem as everyone else, dead eyes, ugly flat lips, creepy wax skin, but were also done dirty (literally) with their noses. The topside is made more dark even if it wasn't before (you cannot disable this) and the underside looks.... green? Yellow? It look really odd, like they panicked when people (validly) complained about losing bunny noses and someone went in there real quick with an airbrush. The whole face looks so low contrast in the lighting, except the nose, it's incredibly weird.

    Please, do not release in this state.
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    Nashmira Ni
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    Please, do not release in this state.
    I'd rather this update not be a part of the Dawntrail launch. I'd much prefer they take their time, push it back a patch or two until they've managed to solve this problem.
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    Payne Leonhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tethan View Post


    Bunnies are just NOT okay.

    They share the same problem as everyone else, dead eyes, ugly flat lips, creepy wax skin, but were also done dirty (literally) with their noses. The topside is made more dark even if it wasn't before (you cannot disable this) and the underside looks.... green? Yellow? It look really odd, like they panicked when people (validly) complained about losing bunny noses and someone went in there real quick with an airbrush. The whole face looks so low contrast in the lighting, except the nose, it's incredibly weird.

    Please, do not release in this state.
    I can't even see the difference aside from one image being slightly lighter than the other.
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    Erzulie One
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1313 View Post
    I can't even see the difference aside from one image being slightly lighter than the other.
    I think alot of people have come to discover that they simply do not have an eye for detail when it comes to faces. In the above example, the benchmark version looks dull, and the facial expression has gone from (at a quick glance) content to bored. His face looks dirty now instead of having regular shadows and his mouth and chin have completely changed shape. His nose looks flatter and gives the illusion of being shorter and wider in the benchmark. All in all I would never have guessed that this is the same character, I couldve guessed this is the same face with different choices for nose and lips and chin sure.
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    Reverie Arbeau
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    In reference to the nose darkness above, it was mainly Male Viera Face 3 that suffered from that change. Its bunny nose was very subtle compared to all the other faces, and I think they tried to make it more obvious without really thinking about the facial balance. It's a shame because I like the idea of it being more noticeable.

    I'm also now noticing that Rava & Veena--both genders--have the same exact eyes now, when Veena used to have larger pupils, akin to Keepers of the Moon. A lot of these changes are feeling more and more hasty...
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    Declan Larkstep
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    I noticed some similar strangeness on my Raava Viera character's eyes too- it's like there is a weird super dark "half-moon" over the top part of her eye that really changes how her resting expression looks.

    Her skin is also constantly glowing as well in the character creator, which looks very odd on a character who is supposed to have deep skin, but this at least seemed to be mostly alleviated in the actual benchmark test scenes.

    The most significant issue I have with the update is the drastic change that was made to my character's hairstyle, specifically the highlights:



    The front of her fringe and her braid have had their highlights completely removed and I'm kind of devastated. As you mentioned, this isn't something I have any ability to change as it is inherent to the hairstyle itself which is extremely frustrating.
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    Lark Weaver
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    Why has my viera been downgraded so much?

    I had to change face completely to try and fix him which meant loosing his beauty mark which is sad. Can we not get some of the facial features like colour lashes, beauty marks and scars made universal across the faces if we are gonna have to make drastic changes to our characters like this?

    Best I could do to fix him...
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    Gale Eldingar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogekigami View Post

    Why has my viera been downgraded so much?

    I had to change face completely to try and fix him which meant loosing his beauty mark which is sad. Can we not get some of the facial features like colour lashes, beauty marks and scars made universal across the faces if we are gonna have to make drastic changes to our characters like this?

    Best I could do to fix him...
    Oh boy this is rough and now I can't unsee the weirdly prominent round chin on face 3.
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