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    SheOfManyAlts's Avatar
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    Rielle Hubertin
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    Also, just really disappointed in the lips overall, especially for the females. Everyone else get more ‘natural’ or even ‘dewy’ looking lips where they fade softly, but the elezens are still stuck with a harsher line. Even on the ‘doll like’ face where you previously had a softer, more blended lip if you didn’t apply lipstick, it’s now this very defined line all around. Like somebody mentioned before, ‘light’ lipstick doesn’t exist anymore. The lip additionally - as a consequence of this change - loses the small curve that actually made it look like a friendly smile.


    Same exact mouth, by the by.


    The newfound perpetual 'smile' on the second male face is also a bit unwelcomed on some characters (though I guess it’ll benefit other characters). When talking about it with my friends, the general feedback is that the male elezens look ‘younger’ and less ‘stern’, which honestly feel like it’s the opposite of what they wanted when they matured up the WOL.

    And, of course, I’ll still be a bit sad that the fact that you still can’t wear mascara as a female duskwight. =__= But that’d be an added thing to the character creator, and I guess the effort was not seen as important enough, compared to adding two new faces to the male hyur. *grumble grumble, petty petty, just deep down jealous*

    Some hairstyles are oddly darker for no apparent reason? I never understood why we needed 4 of THIS particular hairstyle to begin with (yes, I see the hairpins change colour, alright, I get that), but they have always been the same hue of haircolour before, though? Why the difference now?




    And then there are some hairstyles, that seem to no longer be ‘fitted’ very well for the face, clipping into it. I hope this is something temporary that will be fixed, because it’s actually one of the nicer hairstyles.

    (note the way it clips into the forehead)

    OTHER than that, I think the game has really lifted overall! I'm looking forward to playing it, and what can't be fixed, I guess I'll work around/learn to live with!

    Alright, I think that was all for now.
    Bitter old lady out!
    /rant.
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    Veldren Haustevault
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    Genuinely dislike it.
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    Lila Liliheureux
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    So, hmm. In general I like it.
    Before:




    After:



    Just looks a lot nicer to me in a lot of small ways. UNFORTUNATELY: there is a problem with the best haircut in the game, my character's iconic look, the shaved hair. Namely they added an inexplicable parting.



    This is Just Bad in a way that has me like ???? - this is not what a shaved head looks like?!
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by linesthatinterlace View Post

    Just looks a lot nicer to me in a lot of small ways. UNFORTUNATELY: there is a problem with the best haircut in the game, my character's iconic look, the shaved hair. Namely they added an inexplicable parting.



    This is Just Bad in a way that has me like ???? - this is not what a shaved head looks like?!
    Isn't the first case I've seen of this today, someone derped up with the texture application or the model itself needs to be fixed to fit the new textures. Really no excuse for it to be put out looking like that though.
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    Tifaia Kitsune
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    General disappointment in the changes. I understand with the addition of polygons things will soften, but the look of my Elezen doesn't feel like my character. I play as a Duskwight. Without any changes to gamma & directly importing character data, this is the result:



    I made a Wildwood version to see if I could better replicate my current model & had better success:




    The things that I do like:
    - The changes to the ear lighting & providing a bit more definition.
    - Able to see freckles clearly. (Personal taste - I like freckles)
    - Fuller eyebrows.
    - Pronounced hairline.


    Here are my issues:

    - Lips have a more distinct outline, less blended, & mouth animations clearly being a problem, as others have mentioned.

    - Skin tone, a big miss for me. I spent a while changing the gamma, graphics, & looking at light & dark tones - regardless of what I did, everything had a yellow undertone that looked sickly. I did a shift of the camera & got jaundice.



    It varies based on location, & we know how wonky the lighting is in character creator. Before anyone says: "check it in the benchmark!" I did. While more tolerable, there were still issues. It does not give me confidence that this won't transfer over into the game. I don't want to get into a cutscene, have the camera cut up to me & I see this.

    - The eyes. As many other posts are saying, they look dead & doll-like. There is more emotion coming from my OG Elf than the Dawntrail version.

    - Eyelashes on the bottom look painted on instead of the soft look from the current version. The top lashes are too thin & vanish when you move away from the character. Current version of the lashes feel fuller & better blended.

    - Nose. The bridge being straightened alters the profile for my character. The other nose options don't change it back.

    - Faces are too soft. The one sharp line face for female Elezen's is now more rounded in the cheeks, nose, chin, & brows. I feel like my character had plastic surgery, with an emphasis on the plastic. We are all looking like dolls.

    I respect the time it took for the developers to do all this work. Any graphical update for an MMO is an immense undertaking. The environmental updates look great & I think our current characters could fit in. It feels like the update was for corporate and not the players.

    At the very least, got to fix those mouth animations.
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    Last edited by Tifia; 04-16-2024 at 02:14 AM.

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    Lila Liliheureux
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Isn't the first case I've seen of this today, someone derped up with the texture application or the model itself needs to be fixed to fit the new textures. Really no excuse for it to be put out looking like that though.
    I'm not really mad, it is a pretty rare hairstyle that already barely works with most hats. I'm just like, come on man.

    (I like the new mouth animations though. Sorry!)
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by linesthatinterlace View Post
    Just looks a lot nicer to me in a lot of small ways. UNFORTUNATELY: there is a problem with the best haircut in the game, my character's iconic look, the shaved hair. Namely they added an inexplicable parting.



    This is Just Bad in a way that has me like ???? - this is not what a shaved head looks like?!
    Oh damn lol. Looks like they mirrored the texture there and it somehow messed with the lighting. (The old version appears to be made the same way but it is lit correctly).
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    Liamont Arbeau
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    Made a gif of my character to see the differences, the one with the face selection at the top is the new.

    Overall it looks like they pulled the face back upwards for the new, you can see how the lips seem to go upwards more into a smile, the eyebrows upwards, and the shadows under the brow I didn't notice as prominently until now. It looks like they congregated the brow shadows into a smaller blob at the top of the eyes rather than more towards the nose.

    Also realized that they decreased the amount of eye bags, and ironically gave duskwight eyebags instead lol.

    Yeah, I'm not happy with the change.
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    Tizzy Tormentor
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    Machinist Lv 100
    My elf looks absolutely fantastic, cannot wait for the graphics update!
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