Thread: 7.0 Graphic Update - Elezen feedback

Originally Posted by SpiritMuse

The dark circles were a surprise to me too, and I'm not sure I like it either.

My main complaint is the eyes. It's either the eyelashes that have gone overboard, or eye colors go way too dark at the top half. Either way it makes the pupils indistinct and even from a short distance makes eyes look half closed and lidded, which impacts the character's neutral expression a lot. Coupled with the way eyebrow 6 seems angled downward a little more, and my friendly, non-judgmental Elezen (who I've been with for 10 years) now looks decidedly less friendly...

I really dislike how the changes have made the "feel" of a character massively different. Especially for those of us who have been with our characters for years, I've had mine for 6 years, not as long as you have but still...

Originally Posted by MascheRano

There's something weird going on with the fem elezen mouth animations, and it looks really, really weird. The bottom lip curves upward unnaturally, and it's really distracting in the cutscenes and emotes.
Exhibit A:


Compare this to my Xaela, whose bottom lip looks normal:


Exhibit B:

Dawntrail:


6.0:


As you can see, the bottom lip shape was normal before. I suspect they didn't adjust the mouth animations from the Hyur base, and I hope they fix it.

This is super important and should likely have its own thread. I think in general there's a lot of threads right now about mouth shape and lip-movements looking wonky. It might be a good idea to post these pics in those, too, because that's well spotted and called, and that *will* need to be fixed. O___o I thought there was something off in the cutscene, but I hadn't thought to check with the emotes. But a full expansion of that? O___O Yeah, not fun!

Wait, I didn't follow anything, so sorry for dumb dumb question: but you have to purchase downtrail to see the graphical change ?

Originally Posted by Merrigan

Wait, I didn't follow anything, so sorry for dumb dumb question: but you have to purchase downtrail to see the graphical change ?

It is the benchmark. You can download it here:
https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/benchmark/download/





Cheers

Originally Posted by Larirawiel

It is the benchmark. You can download it here:
https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/benchmark/download/





Cheers

Ooooh. Thank you kind Sir.

As with other races, her lashes are basically invisible at more than 20cm distance which drastically alters the look of the eyes. That is a genuine issue because they can't be restored. Everything else looks about right.

I mentioned it in another thread, but subsurface scattering is a bit strong on my skintone. Very noticeable in benchmark.

Face definition is a bit soft for my liking, but not horrible. I'm a dark circles fan and they kept that, but I'd love a wrinkle slider for this type of thing or something. Like the corners of the mouth have faded away completely when I liked having those be more prominent.

Also always had an issue with lipcolor not coming through or washing out, and that's fixed now. I feel facepaint options are still low res though, so I'm not sure if that is still to be implemented.

Alright *cracks knuckles*. Liamont summoned me to share my opinions, so here we go!

Please skip if you’re not in the mood for a nit-picky rant from an elezen appreciator with far too many elezen characters, and thus a lot of gripes with the different ways in which this graphical upgrade has treated her many different little ducklings!

Lots of things to like about the graphical update, but I’m also of the opinion that if you truly like a person, then you’ll tell them when they're off to give a presentation with spinach between their teeth, and so - while some of this might seem nit-picky - I find it important that we do mention our concerns. Especially when the team clearly went above and beyond here in an effort to make everyone happy!

Sure, some of this is a matter of taste, and what cripples one character might be experienced as a massive upgrade for another character, so don’t take this as a ‘this is objectively wrong-list. It’s just what has personally made me frown at the screen in annoyance.

There are many great concerns already raised with lighting and traits and hair and eyes and eyebrows, so I’ll start my focus on the lips, then!

In an effort to make the lips feel… distinct(?), I guess, they’ve added a small beam of light along the upper lip. To emphasis the curve of the skin connecting to the upper lip, I suppose? However, it does run the risk of becoming a bit of a milk moustache/down thing instead.


It obviously doesn’t show up under all lights (Limsan light doesn’t give it, whereas Gridania and indoor lighting is super-bad), but it’s something that personally I’d get so fed up with that I’d just pick hues where it wasn’t that noticeable. Some people might love this change, but personally, it’s not for me.

(post 1/2, because I'm longwinded.)