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  1. #301
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    Ancalagon_Blacktalon's Avatar
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    Ancalagon Blacktalon
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    so the only changes that were made for me was to make the lip color setting to "light" (and also made the highlights lighter, but this is not visible in my normal DRG state), and side by side at this moment I am quite surprised how not totally different they look




    ...though I wouldn't mind the lip gloss back please
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  2. #302
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    Maria Astral
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nebty View Post
    Something's clearly gone wrong with lips across the board though, based on how many other people are noticing it.

    I mean, should fem elezen be expected to live with this?

    I wanna say that's a bug. Something is wrong with the animation there it's not the model or texture.
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  3. #303
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    Akira Kirxaa
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    Dark Knight Lv 90



    I don't like it. Not even a little bit. I chose this face because it was less round and soft than the other faces. I chose it because I was going for a rougher, more angular, more aggressive look, because she's a Dark Knight, and now also a Reaper. Now she has a cutesy pout and dimples and a super rounded face. And I've been building on her character for ten years and already had to come up with an excuse for one cross race fantasia when Au Ra was originally added, I can't use the same trick twice and changing her to another race would make her not her anymore. I even tried other faces but not only would I have to come up with an excuse for her horns to suddenly change shape, but they're all cutesy and soft too, and that's not who Akira is.
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  4. #304
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    Vivian Rysto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebty View Post

    Yeah... that mouth looks really weird. Unless she's about to start crying, then it's perfect..
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  5. #305
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    Plua Trill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verd View Post
    I wanna say that's a bug. Something is wrong with the animation there it's not the model or texture.
    They didn't change the models though (as far as I can tell). Heck, in certain lighting conditions you can even still see where au ra face 2's two halves aren't quite fused right. Ditto for other model seams that have been there since 2.0. I think the changes to the mouths are tied to the new facial rigging they're doing. And it's clearly having an impact on the distinctiveness of the faces. Some au ra mouths, for example, look poutier than before, and others look thinner. There should be a way to do this graphics update without actually changing the facial features.
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  6. #306
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    Verrot Mielnoireu
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    I have to admit that I am not feeling too good about any of my main three characters. The lighting and softening of features stole what I enjoyed most about them. I knew going in that things would be different, but not so drastically different. I did adjust gamma, and I ran each of them through the benchmark cutscenes, it doesn't change the shift in features, nor do I think they were improved much at all
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  7. #307
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    Myla Quille
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Thanks SE, my character looks like sh** now.

    I really hope they revert the way eyebrows and lips look so that they can properly enhance them rather than change them; looks like a complete downgrade in both departments. Eyebrows lack definition and ironically look lower quality than before, and lip coloration is way too flat. The eyebrows in particular are something that I very deliberately chose when initially making my character, so it's very much a shame to me that they're so drastically different. And of course, like everyone else has mentioned, the eyes being given that small touch of light would go a long way in reducing the uncanny, doll-like appearance.

    On the positive side though, I do really like the huge hair upgrade and general face shape/look, barring the aforementioned finer details. Plus they finally fixed Elezen teeth! Which is something I've been praying for for ages. Finally, I can /biggrin. If they go back and fix up the little things I could really get behind this.

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  8. #308
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebty View Post
    They didn't change the models though (as far as I can tell). Heck, in certain lighting conditions you can even still see where au ra face 2's two halves aren't quite fused right. Ditto for other model seams that have been there since 2.0. I think the changes to the mouths are tied to the new facial rigging they're doing. And it's clearly having an impact on the distinctiveness of the faces. Some au ra mouths, for example, look poutier than before, and others look thinner. There should be a way to do this graphics update without actually changing the facial features.
    I mean, you just mentioned how the mouth is different. That's a change to the model. It just wasn't a total remake of it. There's def something off about the animation for Femezen tho, hopefully it's just a work in progress or a bug that'll be fixed.
    I know someone suggested that it might be that some of the animations are still using the Hyur base or something. Maybe that's it.
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  10. #309
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    Plua Trill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verd View Post
    I mean, you just mentioned how the mouth is different. That's a change to the model. It just wasn't a total remake of it. There's def something off about the animation for Femezen tho, hopefully it's just a work in progress or a bug that'll be fixed.
    I know someone suggested that it might be that some of the animations are still using the Hyur base or something. Maybe that's it.
    My point is that I'm wondering if all the mouth differences are a bug. Suddenly having them way less wide than they used to be, seemingly based on nothing, feels like the same kind of thing that might cause femelezen to look like they're dying on the inside when they're supposed to be laughing. It's not as noticeable but my au ra's smile has a definite...joker quality to it now because of the weirdly upturned corners.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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