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  1. #531
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    LlymlaenGreene's Avatar
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    Llymlaen Greene
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Massive upgrade.
    for you this is an upgrade, for she this is massive downgrade.
    you are really biased because you are satisfied with everything, but I will tell you a secret, if you like everything, it does not mean that we have to agree with you
    (9)

  2. #532
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    Yencat's Avatar
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene View Post
    for you this is an upgrade, for she this is massive downgrade.
    you are really biased because you are satisfied with everything, but I will tell you a secret, if you like everything, it does not mean that we have to agree with you
    The poster said they weren't sure, where are you getting the 'massive downgrade" from?
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  3. #533
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    Vhein's Avatar
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    Asura Ranweld
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    Omega
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100

    Feedback on Female Midlander face 5.

    So, first, here is the before and after photo : ( if anyone knows how i can make it appear in my post directly... please let me know, it doesn't work when i use the image thing... )

    https://imgur.com/CFU3IEK

    After some accommodation about the new models, and some in-game change through the char creator, i really love my new middie... But there are still some important points of concern for me.

    First being... The blemishes.

    The blemishes under the eyes looks like freckles, and i really dislike it, as well, these blemishes are also on the chin, and if you look closely, it's very bad looking.

    Second, the lower lip.

    The lower lip is noticeably bigger / puffier on the "After" than on the "Before", i don't like that, my midlander used to have tighter lips and this was part of her initial design, now, the type 1 lips ( the one she use ) is completely off from that feeling she had previously, and the type 3 ( i think ) which is the tighter lips doesn't suit me because these are TOO tight.

    Third, the roundness of the jaw on the new model.

    It might be me, but it seems apparent to me that the jaw toward the ears has become a bit rounder, and the overall upper face feels larger on the new models, and while this isn't as big of an issue to me as the lips and blemishes are, it still took away a bit of that more formal / sharp look she had prior, which i would've loved to keep going. I would prefer it more thin like she used to be basically, but maybe that's just me.

    Fourth, the eye placement.

    It's not a huge deal but, on the new model, the eyes are a little bit farther away from the nose ridge than they used to be, at least it feels that way, which give her a bit of an "off" looking gaze ? Or maybe it's rather the iris that is a bit tinier than it used to be ? or it's placement in the white of the eye ? I don't know for sure, she looks a little off.

    Fifth, the eye highlights.

    Been said a lot i think, but the highlights looks off on those new models, the eyes don't appear as lively as they used to be and in certain instances are SOULLESS, but that's not too much of a case on my char, just saying that she still has less life in her eyes that she used to.

    Sixth, makeup color.

    We can distinctively see that the eye darkener ( makeup ) on the After is one or two tint of dark lighter than the one on Before, it's not that bad looking but i would like to be able to have it as dark as it used to.

    Seventh, eyebrows.

    I don't know why but the type 1 eyebrow from middie is now much less dark ( same goes for the hairs btw ) and this cause them to feel very different from their previous iteration, thankfully, i could correct this by swapping eyebrow to keep her initial "formal" look.

    Here, i think that sums up my problems.

    Overall i like the new models, she looks cute... But she used to look more on the "cold beauty" side, with a more strict / formal look, and it didn't loose itself altogether in this new update but a bit of it is gone and i hope to get it back, ESPECIALLY, the LIPS and the EYE HIGHLIGHTS, if anything.
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    Last edited by Vhein; 04-19-2024 at 03:24 AM.

  4. #534
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    FuturePastNow's Avatar
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    Kali Zeruel
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100


    The change to the shape of the nose is significant. And not just smoothing out the angle on the tip, but a completely different nose. The eyes and eyebrows look different to me, the lips look bad, the hair has less color. I dunno, she just looks angry. I'm not a fan.
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  5. #535
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    GodModule's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remish View Post
    My before and after. Still not sure how I feel.

    Before:


    After:
    I think this face benefited the most from the update. Looks so good
    (7)

  6. #536
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    Antharaes's Avatar
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    Thaelyn Arryn
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    Sagittarius
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vhein View Post
    So, first, here is the before and after photo : ( if anyone knows how i can make it appear in my post directly... please let me know, it doesn't work when i use the image thing... )

    Don't use the quote thingies , you know the " and use the image, not url
    (1)
    Don't look back, that's not the way you're going.

  7. #537
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    My Miqo. Left is EW, right is DT.

    You can click on the image for a bigger picture.



    Edit: The lack of a blueish skin tone is noticable. And it is a good thing for me. Because i did not like it.


    Cheers
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    Last edited by Larirawiel; 04-19-2024 at 07:09 AM.

  8. #538
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    CidHeiral's Avatar
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    Cid Heiral
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene View Post
    for you this is an upgrade, for she this is massive downgrade.
    you are really biased because you are satisfied with everything, but I will tell you a secret, if you like everything, it does not mean that we have to agree with you


    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    The poster said they weren't sure, where are you getting the 'massive downgrade" from?
    These people are living in their own reality. They see whatever they want to see.
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  9. 04-19-2024 07:17 AM

  10. #539
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    Only real things I noticed are
    • Lips got more glossy even though no lipstick
    • Hair is very bright
    • The white of the eyebrows looks shorter and at a different angle
    • The ear's cartilage is modeled is different
    I really like that bottom-right picture! I think it's the hair, freckles and eyes for me...they all seem a bit more vibrant (especially the hair as you mentioned).

    Gotta say, as the days go by, I am getting more excited to see how things are gonna be in-game. Ever so slightly amused at the thought of my characters becoming all wonky looking. Or maybe they'll all have massive glow-ups and we can crown the benchmark/creator the troll of the year. Either way, exciting times ahead!

    I am also really curious if there is any truth to the theory that SE has tweaked the mouth rigs in order to allow for more unique facial expressions down the road. I've been testing out more characters again, and the miqo'te mouth at this scene always looks sliiightly weird to me. I don't hate it, but it does seem to form a new shape? Stretched wider perhaps? She looks cute IMO though. :X


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    Last edited by Skivvy; 04-19-2024 at 10:16 AM.

  11. 04-19-2024 07:47 AM

  12. #540
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    Don't try this as if people can't read your previous statement, disingenuous much? You assumed that I "don't like what other people are saying" when I never said or implied that. I disagreed with SOME points and their choice of where to show them. Nothing more.

    But as I said, whatever makes you sleep better at night.
    Okay. Don't really care that much, tbh. You're just looking for someone to argue with. Just pretending everyone is attacking you so you can feel justified. Best to move on.
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