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    Player fantasiaaddict's Avatar
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    Luneth Harvey
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    What happened to AOE Complainers?

    I vividly remember when Endwalker first launched how many people there were complaining about the over abundance of AOE skills, like Machinist's Chainsaw or Dragoon's Wyrmwind Thrust, and especially how many AOEs there are in the Summoner rework.

    It seems that they're going to be focusing on AOEs again, especially with how prevalent that new ground effect they seem to be using in the trailer is.

    Where did all the complainers go?
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasiaaddict View Post
    I vividly remember when Endwalker first launched how many people there were complaining about the over abundance of AOE skills, like Machinist's Chainsaw or Dragoon's Wyrmwind Thrust, and especially how many AOEs there are in the Summoner rework.

    It seems that they're going to be focusing on AOEs again, especially with how prevalent that new ground effect they seem to be using in the trailer is.

    Where did all the complainers go?
    They wiped to killing someone else's doll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Dunno,

    Maybe you seem to care more about people complaining than the people themselves that actually complain?
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    Player fantasiaaddict's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Dunno,

    Maybe you seem to care more about people complaining than the people themselves that actually complain?
    I'm just looking for hypocrisy.
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    Selene Halflight
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    Didn't even know there was complaint about how many we had.

    Always Thought it was the fact people didn't know how to use the basics or situations of their kits.

    But I guess both are related in a way.
    (That they never understood how it worked.)

    I doubt the Aoe will be an issue in DT.

    So far, it seems to look like things are getting an upgrade as we have been led to believe.

    I know for sure BLMs Aoe DoT has not been upgraded in abit.
    (And BLMs have basically the same rotation for single/aoe. They flow the same, even if the buttons are different.
    It's like one of the jobs that could just get stance/phase/type changed between the two. Almost how I imagine VIPer to be, with dual wield <-> twinblade to be)

    edit:

    Know what, ima call it.

    We gonna eventually get an AOE Paradox, or some other skill that acts as a good variant for BLM Aoes.

    I noticed how they changed it from Shb(Which at first kind threw me off, cause I couldn't refresh timer with Freeze anymore, or spam freeze/flare) But now it flows like it's Single Target, which would make more sense and less conflict for new learners.
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    Last edited by GTK0HLK; 04-14-2024 at 04:29 AM.

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    Lynne Asteria
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    Got a source on that, cuz I remember nothing about aoes in general and specifically things like aoe skills that should have just been replacing other skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    They wiped to killing someone else's doll.
    Doll? whats a doll?
    TEA starts in limit cut now
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    Peter Redhill
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    I meam wall to wall is one of the most boring dungeon metas because it's just clump zero skill AoE spam, but I haven't seen anything about it. It would go over like a lead balloon anyway.
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    "You haven't proven that it is safe, you've (only) proved that you can't figure out how it's dangerous."

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    Gralya Arodica
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    Main one I remember is people mocking Sch after the EW Job Action trailer, joking about how useless Expedient was... only for it to be OP in raids and had to have group sprint portion of it nerfed.
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    I don't recall people complaining about AoEs for Endwalker.

    My only complaint about AoEs is their usefulness is limited to the easiest, most boring content in the game: Dungeons.

    If AoEs are the only new flashy abilities we're getting while we have to suffer through another 2 years of this awful 2-min meta, then DawnTrail will easily be one of the worst expansions.
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