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    bp_isa_ff's Avatar
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    Samurai Lv 100
    There is one saving grace though: the fact you don't have to use it. The new Mute feature appears to work identically to the current Blacklist, so those of us that have safety concerns with the Enhanced Blacklist can use Mute instead. Thank god for that, because had this "Enhanced" Blacklist replaced the current Blacklist I'd no longer have felt safe playing the game and I know I'm not alone in that.
    As mentioned before, you shouldn't be surprised if people continue to request total model removal, as the Enhanced Blacklist as currently proposed does not meet the needs of everyone who requested it.

    In short, "Enhanced Blacklist Functionality" is "they get to keep stalking and harassing you, you just don't know about it" which is arguably worse than the current Blacklist. We want to be invisible to the people we blacklist as well, instead of only having them invisible to us.

    Lastly to praise what was done well, because I don't like that the whole post was negative:
    - Term Filter was everything that we asked for, and will be a godsend for everyone.
    - Estate Expulsion is also incredible, and all it would take to make it perfect is an option to deny someone entry permanently.
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    Player Bun_Vivant's Avatar
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    Bun Vivant
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    Sage Lv 95
    Quote Originally Posted by bp_isa_ff View Post
    In short, "Enhanced Blacklist Functionality" is "they get to keep stalking and harassing you, you just don't know about it" which is arguably worse than the current Blacklist. We want to be invisible to the people we blacklist as well, instead of only having them invisible to us.
    Wait, let me see if I understand this correctly: you want to give other people the ability to make themselves invisible to you (by blacklisting you) so that you can't see what they are doing to you?

    Don't let the fact that they you are invisible to them as well give you a false sense of security: all they need is a "spotter" character from another account quietly sitting nearby, bothering no one, but letting the "stalker" know everything you are doing.
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    Garish Enmity
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by bp_isa_ff View Post
    snip " I'd no longer have felt safe playing the game and I know I'm not alone in that."
    My unpopular opinion here is simply going to be, if your "safety" is compromised by an invisible actor moving around your character in a virtual game - Get Help. You need therapy.

    I'm not even trying to be edgy, you are not exhibiting a normal response to a non action in a virtual world. A black listed character under the new system means they cannot interact with you in a meaningful way, if you're going to be sitting there like "omg, are they next to me right now" that says so much about you. To the point where you rather use the lesser tool and mute them instead and watch them harass you? Nah. You want to live in your victimhood. Their erasure from the game and the fact you can hide yourself from them on the lodestone means their power has been stripped away. All the power they have left is in your head and you're handing it to them on a silver platter.

    You've emotionally invested too much into this and you're now inventing harassment when you will no longer be able to see the player or see their chat.

    I don't even care if this is the "how dare you it's 2024, it's mean to say anything against the victim, you victim blaming monster".

    Yeah ok, get therapy and develop healthy coping skills.

    Also peeps can hurl insults and reply ad nauseum. I just came to leave this one post. If you feel like OP, you also need to go get a therapist and put your stalkers on the actual blacklist.
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    Anyway that aside,

    SE do the friendslist next. That needs a complete revamp, if I remove a friend, it should be removed from their list as well. Also let us friend our alts.
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferNacht View Post
    My unpopular opinion here is simply going to be, if your "safety" is compromised by an invisible actor moving around your character in a virtual game - Get Help. You need therapy.

    I'm not even trying to be edgy, you are not exhibiting a normal response to a non action in a virtual world. A black listed character under the new system means they cannot interact with you in a meaningful way, if you're going to be sitting there like "omg, are they next to me right now" that says so much about you. To the point where you rather use the lesser tool and mute them instead and watch them harass you? Nah. You want to live in your victimhood. Their erasure from the game and the fact you can hide yourself from them on the lodestone means their power has been stripped away. All the power they have left is in your head and you're handing it to them on a silver platter.

    You've emotionally invested too much into this and you're now inventing harassment when you will no longer be able to see the player or see their chat.

    I don't even care if this is the "how dare you it's 2024, it's mean to say anything against the victim, you victim blaming monster".

    Yeah ok, get therapy and develop healthy coping skills.

    Also peeps can hurl insults and reply ad nauseum. I just came to leave this one post. If you feel like OP, you also need to go get a therapist and put your stalkers on the actual blacklist.
    ---

    Anyway that aside,

    SE do the friendslist next. That needs a complete revamp, if I remove a friend, it should be removed from their list as well. Also let us friend our alts.
    I disagree.
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferNacht View Post
    Their erasure from the game and the fact you can hide yourself from them on the lodestone means their power has been stripped away.
    Pretty much. They can't make new alts to harass with and their entire account has been terminated from their former victim's view. All they can do is impotently sit behind their screen while no one notices or cares. It's similar to parasocial losers sending messages to their favorite content creator that will never be read. LMAO
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    Azhrei Vahlok
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by bp_isa_ff View Post
    There is one saving grace though: the fact you don't have to use it. The new Mute feature appears to work identically to the current Blacklist, so those of us that have safety concerns with the Enhanced Blacklist can use Mute instead. Thank god for that, because had this "Enhanced" Blacklist replaced the current Blacklist I'd no longer have felt safe playing the game and I know I'm not alone in that.
    As mentioned before, you shouldn't be surprised if people continue to request total model removal, as the Enhanced Blacklist as currently proposed does not meet the needs of everyone who requested it.

    In short, "Enhanced Blacklist Functionality" is "they get to keep stalking and harassing you, you just don't know about it" which is arguably worse than the current Blacklist. We want to be invisible to the people we blacklist as well, instead of only having them invisible to us.

    Lastly to praise what was done well, because I don't like that the whole post was negative:
    - Term Filter was everything that we asked for, and will be a godsend for everyone.
    - Estate Expulsion is also incredible, and all it would take to make it perfect is an option to deny someone entry permanently.
    holy crap the term filter... yes... THANK YOU. no more venue ads clogging MY chat log....
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