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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by BokoToloko View Post
    Well, it wouldn't be the first time that some of the flashier spells aren't shown in the Benchmark but, if I had to take a guess...
    - GNB's is very likely to be Continuation for Fated Circle.
    - PLD's cone AOE could be the AoE upgrade to Goring Blade, in the same way as Expiacion upgraded Spirits Within.
    - MCH skills looks like like a Chainsaw with cast time. Maybe it's a 120s GCD to fill in as the 6 button in Wildfire?
    - SGE seems like a Toxikon upgrade to me, sadly
    - WAR seems like an upgraded Vengeance, idk where people is taking the Cover part from.
    - SMN seems like Ramuh's gemshine spell

    Can't say much about the rest.
    I don’t think Sage’s is a Toxikon III. The sage is performing a completely different animation that we have not seen, and the spell effects look nothing like Toxikon or Toxikon II. It also looks too powerful to be a Toxikon spell.

    What’s interesting though is it has a lot more in common with Eukrasian Diagnosis. The Sage’s animation begins like how E. Diagnosis does, with them raising their hand up, and the spell effect also starts in a way that looks similar to how E. Diagnosis’ starts.

    Quote Originally Posted by yay4indigo View Post
    i can't stand when people say things like, "every benchmark trailer has showed off one new ability."
    i mean, yes, that's a pattern, but SE can willfully choose to stop that any time lol. it's a precedent, but not one they have to obey since they freaking created the precedent.

    also, i'm disheartened bc even from this trailer and what few maybe-maybe-not animations were shown off, it looks like combat will be relatively the same. which is the one thing that really needs to be revamped. being a healing main couldn't be more boring.
    I mean, the benchmark quite literally did show off a new animation for each job. Do you think it’s more likely that those animations were made only for the benchmark and aren’t actually going to be used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I don’t think Sage’s is a Toxikon III. The sage is performing a completely different animation that we have not seen, and the spell effects look nothing like Toxikon or Toxikon II. It also looks too powerful to be a Toxikon spell.

    What’s interesting though is it has a lot more in common with Eukrasian Diagnosis. The Sage’s animation begins like how E. Diagnosis does, with them raising their hand up, and the spell effect also starts in a way that looks similar to how E. Diagnosis’ starts.
    It starts with both hands in the air, just like both previous Toxikons, though you can only just barely see the left hand's fingers pop up over the Lala's hair. It does not start with one hand like E. Diagnosis. The only new addition to the animation is the ground pound at the end, similar to but less exaggerated than Kerachole.
    The first Toxikon is an orbital attack, the second is a slightly explosive cross blast from above. Upgrading to an attack that takes the orbital motion and the high point above that now draws an elaborate magic circle that then explodes isn't all that outrageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    It starts with both hands in the air, just like both previous Toxikons, though you can only just barely see the left hand's fingers pop up over the Lala's hair. It does not start with one hand like E. Diagnosis. The only new addition to the animation is the ground pound at the end, similar to but less exaggerated than Kerachole.
    The first Toxikon is an orbital attack, the second is a slightly explosive cross blast from above. Upgrading to an attack that takes the orbital motion and the high point above that now draws an elaborate magic circle that then explodes isn't all that outrageous.
    Just adding to my previous observation, we can see that same Lala Sage popping Phlegma III, just before whatever the Gunbreaker and Dragoon are doing, and firing Dosis III while the Dragoon is doing its thing. They move immediately from the Dosis III animation into the new attack, so unless they're just firing things off in ways that can't work in game that skill is not something tied to Eukrasia at all, as that ability is never used, which further helps to assume it is Toxikon III.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EusisLandale View Post
    Just adding to my previous observation, we can see that same Lala Sage popping Phlegma III, just before whatever the Gunbreaker and Dragoon are doing, and firing Dosis III while the Dragoon is doing its thing. They move immediately from the Dosis III animation into the new attack, so unless they're just firing things off in ways that can't work in game that skill is not something tied to Eukrasia at all, as that ability is never used, which further helps to assume it is Toxikon III.
    Just a note the benchmark doesn’t have to make any of the actions make sense in the context of the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Just a note the benchmark doesn’t have to make any of the actions make sense in the context of the game
    I addressed that.
    so unless they're just firing things off in ways that can't work in game
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