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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    The SMN not having a Carbuncle is even more concerning now that I think about it.



    Just look at SMN. Flashy, but boring and stupid.
    “People were giving feedback that Carbuncle didn’t have enough abilities, so we removed him.” Is a statement that I would not doubt was real for a second if it gets said during the next live letter, which is such an astounding thing to accept as reality without a second thought. Could you imagine the logic anywhere else?

    “Doctor, my leg hurts.”

    “I’ll have to amputate it.”

    “Wait, what!? Can’t you just prescribe me some pain killers or suggest a surgery?”

    “No. Amputation is the only way.”
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    “People were giving feedback that Carbuncle didn’t have enough abilities, so we removed him.” Is a statement that I would not doubt was real for a second if it gets said during the next live letter, which is such an astounding thing to accept as reality without a second thought. Could you imagine the logic anywhere else?

    “Doctor, my leg hurts.”

    “I’ll have to amputate it.”

    “Wait, what!? Can’t you just prescribe me some pain killers or suggest a surgery?”

    “No. Amputation is the only way.”
    And nothing of value is lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    And nothing of value is lost.
    Or we could give Carbuncle new things to do. The solution isn't always amputation even if it seems easy to amputate at the sound of every cough.
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    Sage has failed to live up to the fantasy of a sci-fi DPS healer. Please change this for 8.0. Make Sage fast, exciting, and aggressive. It should feel like a healer that plays like a DPS. Empower the aspects of Sage's unique healing mechanics: Kardia and Eukrasia to give its healing playstyle more identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Or we could give Carbuncle new things to do. The solution isn't always amputation even if it seems easy to amputate at the sound of every cough.
    I'd rather they delete it. One less thing to be cluttering up my screen.

    Or if you want a more serious answer, the carbuncle sucks and it always has. Pet control has never worked in this game so any ideas relating to the carbuncle on that front get tossed automatically.

    So then why not give it more abilities that work like the other summons? Because the one it has already sucks to use. Radiant aegis is a pain in the ass cooldown to use because it is unusable while you are using summon titan/ifrit/garuda until they do their big attack and dissipate so your carbuncle repopulates. Or for an even longer time period when you are in the middle of bahamut and phoenix phase. This automatically makes anything you strap to the carbuncle kind of insufferable to use. It also can't be a gcd because the gcd rotation is already tight on summoner. And given the previous limitation, whatever you added would be real hard to use in the 2 minute burst window anyway so why bother?

    To prop up a fluff ability? I'm the wrong guy to come to with concerns like that, I am the lone kaiten removal defender. Whatever ability you would add to carbuncle is better added literally anywhere else in the kit. I would happily toss the rat into the garbage just to be able to use Radiant Aegis whenever I pleased.
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    Last edited by Arkdra; 04-14-2024 at 06:06 AM.

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    Amputation.., Don't tell me Raubahn is gonna FMA that leg.

    Low quality joke aside.

    There really is a struggle of identity.
    While it may not be everyone, if they don't solve it. it will snuff out a good chunk of SMN players enthusiasm.
    (As much as I'll always prefer SCH over them. It'd be a pain if they kept losing identity. More so after they got a segment of their interested players amputated with the new playstyle.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by yay4indigo View Post
    i can't stand when people say things like, "every benchmark trailer has showed off one new ability."
    i mean, yes, that's a pattern, but SE can willfully choose to stop that any time lol. it's a precedent, but not one they have to obey since they freaking created the precedent.

    also, i'm disheartened bc even from this trailer and what few maybe-maybe-not animations were shown off, it looks like combat will be relatively the same. which is the one thing that really needs to be revamped. being a healing main couldn't be more boring.
    Let's be honest, FFXIV team is not known for getting out of script. People have predicted number of dungeons, skills (and which levels we get them) , trials, gear, ilv for years now.

    And I agree, they really need to shake combat up.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Might be reading into things a lot, but Ast's effect sounded a little like a 'winding up' speed effect effect, and I know that's the sound of the action itself because right after that we can hear a distinct eastern bell sound effect for the Hellfrog Medium upgrade.

    So very likely we get the rest of the aspected summons for SMN! I just can't see they adding just Ramuh and leaving the Ice and Water elements out. Also the SMN doesn't have the pet out... might be just for Dawntrail, but I wonder if they truly ended making the carbuncle optional at this point.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    AoE Continuation could be fun
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    Eristede Kell
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    NIN: Hellfrog but now wearing armor and breathing blue fire.
    Hellfrog Large let's go!

    Seriously, EW NIN plays so well - I just want more of this. Give me an upgraded Bhavacakra as well, SQEnix.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Wonder if we are seeing two button AOE combos on healers instead of flat upgrades from the pvp combo system.
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