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  1. #21
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    Avatar de Supersnow845
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    aot 2021
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    Gridania
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Érudit Lv 100
    Honestly arguments of if it will discourage third party tools or not aside I do think there is a legit argument that TOP went a little too far and because of it it isn’t remotely fun

    Ultimates are the hardest content in the game but there is a point when you approach something like T7S where the oppressive difficulty just isn’t remotely fun and there is way too much RNG involved
    (0)

  2. #22
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    Avatar de NanaWiloh
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    Nana Wiloh
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Astromancien Lv 100
    NOOOOOOOO!!!!!...
    (0)

  3. #23
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    Avatar de EstelleCere
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    Estelle Ceres
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Chevalier dragon Lv 100
    This reminds me of that twitter post that was going around talking about the use of addons in ultimates and starting a while thing over there about it loool

    With that said the point of ultimates is for them to be challenging, but you can def clear them without addons. Making them easier would ruin the point.
    (0)

  4. #24
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    Avatar de Aravell
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    aot 2017
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    J'thaldi Rhid
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Machiniste Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par Supersnow845 Voir le message
    Honestly arguments of if it will discourage third party tools or not aside I do think there is a legit argument that TOP went a little too far and because of it it isn’t remotely fun

    Ultimates are the hardest content in the game but there is a point when you approach something like T7S where the oppressive difficulty just isn’t remotely fun and there is way too much RNG involved
    I think it all really comes down to one question: "Is Run : ****mi* a well-designed mechanic in terms of mental load on the players?". If the mental load is too high, it makes a lot of sense for some to turn to tools to make it more manageable. That's not to say whether or not it's a good thing when people use tools, but it does raise the question of how much mental information can you load into a mechanic before it becomes too much for most people?
    (0)

  5. #25
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    Avatar de Commander_Justitia
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    aot 2013
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    Ash Primordial
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    They should add an ultimate that is (secretly) not beatable, just to teach 3rd party tool users a lesson
    (0)

  6. #26
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    Avatar de Canadane
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Peoples "requirements" of add-ons is a big reason I haven't gotten a decent group for any of them.
    One day I hope SE finishes this honeypot and we see the third party using playerbase snapped out of existence.
    (3)

    http://king.canadane.com

  7. #27
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    Avatar de Sayo_
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    Sayo Toshimoto
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 98
    Citation Envoyé par Threneras Voir le message
    It doesn't, but sadly at this point the only way to defeat third party addons is to remove the reason for their existence altogether.
    No it isn't. People use third party programs for easier stuff besides ultimates too.
    (0)


    7,000 people on earth and I will protect them all.

  8. #28
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    Avatar de Hazama999
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    aot 2013
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    Momoida Jojoida
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    As someone who doesn't engage with Ultimate content and therefore has no chocobo in this race...

    No.

    Make each new one harder than the last.
    (0)


    Family Medicine doctor.
    Constantly learning.

    Signature art by @simanokoB on Twitter. Thank you!

  9. #29
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    Avatar de CidHeiral
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    Cid Heiral
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    Hyperion
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    Chevalier dragon Lv 100
    Citation Envoyé par SargeTheSeagull Voir le message
    Am I high or did Ren Thras make a smurf account?
    Thren Ras is a known Titanman troll alt, originally created to troll Renthras specifically by sarcastically emulating his posting style. Everyone seriously replying is taking the bait.
    (2)

  10. #30
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    Avatar de ty_taurus
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    Character
    Noah Orih
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par CidHeiral Voir le message
    Thren Ras is a known Titanman troll alt, originally created to troll Renthras specifically by sarcastically emulating his posting style. Everyone seriously replying is taking the bait.
    Which is weird since there is currently no Ren to troll. Bizarre to bring back what was otherwise a dormant alt who serves no purpose for this.
    (1)

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