Ultimates need to be easier going forward

[Threneras]

We're at the point where most raiders use third-party tools to do Ultimates, and you can't get into a group if you don't want someone using those third party tools. The playerbase having to use these things is a big indication that the new ultimate difficulty wall is pushing what the playerbase can do without assistance.

Square Enix can end the third party tools usage very easily. Make Ultimates easier. Without the need to use third party tools, the problem will be completely gone. Ultimates should be similar in difficulty to a fourth floor savage fight, and fourth floor and third floor savages should be nerfed so there isn't a huge difficulty spike between second and third floor.

[SargeTheSeagull]

Am I high or did Ren Thras make a smurf account? That aside, I think UCOB at launch / DSR is about perfect for difficulty. "Muh addons" isn't really a coherent argument for the devs changing the difficulty of anything. There are so many pitfalls and slippery slopes pertaining to what'll happen should the devs account for addon usage that they just shouldn't. Just see what that's done for WoW's encounters over the last decade. Good luck doing heroic or mythic raids without at least DBM.

[ty_taurus]

Am I high or did Ren Thras make a smurf account? That aside, I think UCOB at launch / DSR is about perfect for difficulty. "Muh addons" isn't really a coherent argument for the devs changing the difficulty of anything. There are so many pitfalls and slippery slopes pertaining to what'll happen should the devs account for addon usage that they just shouldn't. Just see what that's done for WoW's encounters over the last decade. Good luck doing heroic or mythic raids without at least DBM.

This happened a while back, I'm assuming around the time the account was made. It's not him.

[Jeeqbit]

Welcome back.

Extremes are easy to PUG while still being fulfilling in a way that normal modes are not. It is true that as the difficulty scales up it just increasingly leads to this sort of thing.

But at the same time, there are always those voices crying out for harder content. For most of the time I've played this game, once people learn the script for a fight and get used to it, they start claiming it's "easy" even though first timers struggle with it, as if they don't understand that it's only easy because they know the script.

So maybe this hard content needs to be there just to silence the people who are never content with the difficulty of the content below it. Maybe its role is to convince them "you don't want it to be harder". Or alternatively, satisfy them with its difficulty.

did Ren Thras make a smurf account?

No, they didn't. But someone did.

[CidHeiral]

Am I high or did Ren Thras make a smurf account?

Thren Ras is a known Titanman troll alt, originally created to troll Renthras specifically by sarcastically emulating his posting style. Everyone seriously replying is taking the bait.

[DiaDeem]

lol. Between this and the unfair vacation post, no wonder the devs don't take this place seriously.

[Sayo_]

Ultimates can be done without third party addons. I know a few PS4 players that have beaten them. Them being difficult doesn't excuse or enable rule breakers.

[Threneras]

Ultimates can be done without third party addons. I know a few PS4 players that have beaten them. Them being difficult doesn't excuse or enable rule breakers.

It doesn't, but sadly at this point the only way to defeat third party addons is to remove the reason for their existence altogether.

[Sayo_]

It doesn't, but sadly at this point the only way to defeat third party addons is to remove the reason for their existence altogether.

No it isn't. People use third party programs for easier stuff besides ultimates too.

[Mistress_Irika]

Horrible idea. Making that easier is not going to magically get rid of the tools. They're just going to be used elsewhere.

All that's going to do is add to the already big list of complaints of how the game has gotten too 'easy'.