Ultimates need to be easier going forward

[SweetPete]

I’m so iffy on this one. I definitely don’t want ultimates to become easier. It should be the most difficult fights in the game. Though I agree that something needs to be done about addons. I play PvP allot and the cheaters man. It’s just ridiculous and unfair. I know the housing addon is really nice and makes housing easier. I say if SE completely unlocks housing and made placing furnishings easier for designers then yeah ban all addons I say.

Just my personal opinion.

[LilimoLimomo]

Square Enix can end the third party tools usage very easily. Make Ultimates easier. Without the need to use third party tools, the problem will be completely gone.

History demonstrates that this theory is false, as third party tool usage has been a part of the game for many raiders since well before Ultimates even existed.

The truth is that there is a culture around using add-ons for MMO raiding, and that culture has affected FF14. Players have never needed add-ons to complete content, but that doesn't stop players from wanting the leg up that add-ons provide. The problem you're describing isn't one of necessity created by the game, it's a problem of culture created by players.

[Threneras]

History demonstrates that this theory is false, as third party tool usage has been a part of the game for many raiders since well before Ultimates even existed.

The truth is that there is a culture around using add-ons for MMO raiding, and that culture has affected FF14. Players have never needed add-ons to complete content, but that doesn't stop players from wanting the leg up that add-ons provide. The problem you're describing isn't one of necessity created by the game, it's a problem of culture created by players.

Before Ultimates existed, third party tool usage will get you kicked out of free companies... Now if you don't want to play with someone using a third party tool doing TOP you'll be kicked out instead.

[Tint]

Before Ultimates existed, third party tool usage will get you kicked out of free companies... Now if you don't want to play with someone using a third party tool doing TOP you'll be kicked out instead.

Good, that's easier than leaving the group by yourself.

Make up your mind. Either you are okay with people cheating in your team, which means you are already a cheater and can use the tools yourself with no further moral problems, or you are not okay with people cheating in your team and you should leave anyway.

And they don't have to make ultimates easier. What would be the point? We already have savage for that. What they should do instead is remove ultimate. Because spending dev time and money just to entertain some computer programs seems like a waste of ressources.

[LilimoLimomo]

Before Ultimates existed, third party tool usage will get you kicked out of free companies... Now if you don't want to play with someone using a third party tool doing TOP you'll be kicked out instead.

I presume this is your personal experience, but that's not everyone's experience. There have always been groups that would kick you for not rolling with their tool setup; you simply seem to have been lucky enough to avoid them. Congrats on that, it sounds nice!

And to this day there are still FC's that will kick you out if you violate the ToS; that's another thing that hasn't changed.

[QiyoJoyo]

Why are the most troll-threads from Lalafell.

I smell a conspiracy!

[AnimaAnimus]

This is why we can't have nice things.

[Kaurhz]

Less need for something does not necessarily equate to less widespread use of something. People will use something regardless of whether or not they need it, especially if the use provides an advantage, and short of going nuclear on all third-party tools, or short of having a duty action that is an "Instant win" button. You won't really accomplish much.

Pretty universal across gaming and many hobbies.

[Rikka_Chu]

Bruh, If you think only people doing ultimates or savage using addons that make game easier by showing where to go etc, you would be surprised.

I generally dont care if they make ultimates easier or harder, the thing they should focus on though is not how difficult fight it, but how fun it is.

[TristanX]

Hard, Extreme, Ultimate and Savage is like the difficulty settings on old games. Level 1 to 10. Just leave people who wants harder difficulty alone. Play with settings that suits your playstyle.