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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    1. Should be possible, not only with existing apartments but housing as well.

    2. I *believe* there was already a mention about this kind of idea at a Fanfest, where they were toying around with making the insides bigger, i.e., a small house interior could be upgraded to a medium size (or something along those lines - I'm trying to go through Fanfests and look for it).

    3. This is already planned after Dawntrail release, increasing glamours and inventory for housing. I don't remember how clear it was to drop more items on floors, but at least inventory is going up.

    4. I think this might be an option (#2) but would be nice to have this implemented for all apartments, and be an option to players.

    The housing mirage system notes is from the October Patch note reading, it's a comment Yoshi made that is translated differently between the FFXIV reddit discord and native Japanese speakers.

    So until SE makes an announcement, it doesn't make sense for people to be thinking "yay smalls are all of a sudden going to be larges on the inside, every plot will get 400 interior slots and 400 storage slots".

    Other native JP speakers have translated as the interior layouts will have more settings to choose from, for example a no pillar option, no center staircase in a large or side staircase in a medium, a blank space where you can create your own floors, smalls having a top second floor rather than a basement or one really tall floor.

    Not to mention void builds which SE has reset once before and don't want people to build out there, so why not allow void builders the space to do what they are doing but inside the bounds SE needs for server stability.

    The glamour system simply changes the look of what is being represented. I personally don't see how more storage space (aka more slots, smalls all getting 800 slots instead of 400) would tie into that when they struggle as is for server space.

    It's not for me to kill anyone's hopium though, believe whatever you want as long as people don't spread misinformation and then harass the devs later when the misinterpretation is wrong.
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    Quote from FFXIV Reddit Discord, you can find this post on 10/02/2023 at 9:52 PM from Iluna Minori

    ・パッチ7.x中を予定しているが柱がない家の内装をまるごと別のもの変える、全く別の広さを持った内装に変えるみたいな仕様を進めている
    →ミラージュ的な設定?
    Patch 7.x will see housing interior capable of setup without pillars, and a specification that changes how you change your house interior to something completely different from what we have right now (and also completely different in terms of spaciousness)
    -> Something like a housing version of glamour settings?
    ・パッチ7.0でも新アクションが追加されローテーションも変わるジョブも多いと思う
    Happy Housing
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    Last edited by LuciferNacht; 04-09-2024 at 08:17 PM. Reason: Forgot to quote the person I was responding to

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferNacht View Post
    The housing mirage system notes is from the October Patch note reading, it's a comment Yoshi made that is translated differently between the FFXIV reddit discord and native Japanese speakers.

    So until SE makes an announcement, it doesn't make sense for people to be thinking "yay smalls are all of a sudden going to be larges on the inside, every plot will get 400 interior slots and 400 storage slots".

    Other native JP speakers have translated as the interior layouts will have more settings to choose from, for example a no pillar option, no center staircase in a large or side staircase in a medium, a blank space where you can create your own floors, smalls having a top second floor rather than a basement or one really tall floor.

    Not to mention void builds which SE has reset once before and don't want people to build out there, so why not allow void builders the space to do what they are doing but inside the bounds SE needs for server stability.

    The glamour system simply changes the look of what is being represented. I personally don't see how more storage space (aka more slots, smalls all getting 800 slots instead of 400) would tie into that when they struggle as is for server space.

    It's not for me to kill anyone's hopium though, believe whatever you want as long as people don't spread misinformation and then harass the devs later when the misinterpretation is wrong.
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    Quote from FFXIV Reddit Discord, you can find this post on 10/02/2023 at 9:52 PM from Iluna Minori



    Happy Housing
    They said nothign about increasing the floorspace but they are going to increase the amount of things you can place inside. THAT'S what was said before...
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    Ill trade you mine for the low price of a Peregrine Helm
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    Don't fall for the housing trap. Just get an apartment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weebtext View Post
    Don't fall for the housing trap. Just get an apartment.
    This. Housing is an anchor that roots you to a game with an inexcusably slow content schedule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Housing is an anchor that roots you to a game ...
    That's a sunk cost fallacy.

    Besides, you can let your house go abandoned and be destroyed, and you'll get much of your gil back.
    I recently let a small personal house go abandoned and recovered 3,000,000 gil and all the furnishings from it.
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    i have a small house they arnt all that great only the large houses are really worth it but theres so few so goodluck affording one or finding one for sale
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    i have a small house they arnt all that great only the large houses are really worth it but theres so few so goodluck affording one or finding one for sale
    Mao guessings is all in eye of beholder. Mao had small house for while. Mao loved small house. On other claw, Mao has no desire for large house.
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    They should make all plots the same size and make it up to you if want to build a small to large home on it. Just make it the bigger the house is the less items you can have out in the yard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    They should make all plots the same size and make it up to you if want to build a small to large home on it. Just make it the bigger the house is the less items you can have out in the yard.
    I'd like to see this for both houses and apartments.

    Buy a plot of land/apartment, smallest size. Invest money/do quests/craft and/or gather to (slowly?) increase size, small -> medium -> large progression on house and yard separately, so you could have a large yard with a small house, if that's what you prefer, or a mansion with a small yard.
    Similar progression for apartments, but probably have them smaller by default - or just make them into instanced houses and allow for gardening in them, and for FCs to use them as bases for workshops.
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