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  1. #11
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    ManaEterna's Avatar
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    Mana Hime
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    Shinryu
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    Sage Lv 90
    Honestly I personally appreciate that it's all file based and not hard synced from the server.
    The reason is that I play characters in different regions (JP / NA) and I hard linked some things (hot bars settings, hud settings) but not certain things (like gear sets for example) so that whenever I change where a certain skill is placed then it syncs throughout my characters)
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    Learning languages through interpersonnal interaction in Eorzea.

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    Taliriah's Avatar
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Louisoix
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LynxDubh View Post
    The saving of settings is okay as is.
    It's really not. It should be automated. The client could detect if the settings changed and only upload them if they have, it could also upload diffs to minimize the size if bandwidth is a concern (but it should not be, usually bandwidth is expensive upstream, not downstream). The current system is just lazy.
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  3. #13
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    Thaelyn Arryn
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    Sagittarius
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Some of you...really....

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    Don't look back, that's not the way you're going.

  4. #14
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    Menriq's Avatar
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    It's really not. It should be automated. The client could detect if the settings changed and only upload them if they have, it could also upload diffs to minimize the size if bandwidth is a concern (but it should not be, usually bandwidth is expensive upstream, not downstream). The current system is just lazy.
    Gotta love when non software developers tell developers how to do something.
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  5. #15
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    Lynx Dubh
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    It's really not. It should be automated. The client could detect if the settings changed and only upload them if they have, it could also upload diffs to minimize the size if bandwidth is a concern (but it should not be, usually bandwidth is expensive upstream, not downstream). The current system is just lazy.
    I mean, the devs gave us the tools to easily save our settings. Are the devs really the lazy ones in this situation?
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  6. #16
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Louisoix
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    Gotta love when non software developers tell developers how to do something.
    Yep, maybe I overstepped. After all, I'm just a programmer at a video game company. Heck, I just so happen to have implemented a on online game settings saving feature in an online game some ten years ago. It was completely automated and transparent, but what do I know.
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  7. #17
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    Yep, maybe I overstepped. After all, I'm just a programmer at a video game company. Heck, I just so happen to have implemented a on online game settings saving feature in an online game some ten years ago. It was completely automated and transparent, but what do I know.
    And I've been a developer for many years. I also know that every change you make on your local doesn't make it into the commit. Yet here you are saying that as soon as someone saves, it should be pushed up. Then you want diffs on that? Gonna be pretty long list. It's almost like they gave you functionality to decide WHEN you want to push things up, but what do I know.
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  8. #18
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    Louisoix
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    And I've been a developer for many years. I also know that every change you make on your local doesn't make it into the commit. Yet here you are saying that as soon as someone saves, it should be pushed up.
    Obviously it would be when you log off.

    Then you want diffs on that? Gonna be pretty long list.
    And equally obviously, the diff would be applied to update the server side version of the saved data, not appended to a list.

    It's almost like they gave you functionality to decide WHEN you want to push things up, but what do I know.
    Well, here's something you should know: computers can take care of routine operations automatically. Aint technology marvelous?
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  9. #19
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    Obviously it would be when you log off.


    And equally obviously, the diff would be applied to update the server side version of the saved data, not appended to a list.



    Well, here's something you should know: computers can take care of routine operations automatically. Aint technology marvelous?
    You are a developer. You know things are very rarely simple as it sounds. I can come up with several questions that would need answered before even thinking about starting on automating this.
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  10. #20
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I'd like to see the game automatically back up my settings, but ask whether I want to restore or sync them.

    It's easy to forget to use the backup options on the character selection screen, but I also might want to use different configurations for different devices and characters.
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