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  1. #1
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    alliance roulette is just broken and infuriating at this point.

    I'm. Tired. Of. Crystal. Tower.

    2013, 2013 is when ct was released, and now in 2024 it still dominates that roulette.

    For crying out loud, move those 3 fights into the main scenario where they belong, i promise it will not be affected by the move and it would be the easiest thing the devs can do to remedy this mind-numbingly dull trio.

    if you're not going to give players a full rotation for ancient content, or put in the work to update it so it isnt so trivial then the least that can be done is just moving it to a place where players wont have to be bothered by it.

    whoever decided that casual content, at the beginning of a game, thats free and easy to get too is REQUIRED made a terrible, terrible decision.

    I'm making this post that'll never probably be seen because i just left a lota instance, and i wasnt the first or only player either, i'd rather take the penalty than run those ever again. but with how content in this game works the roulette is the shortest wait to get into some of my favorite content.

    but its dominated by this terrible trio, where my lvl90 character has a hint of a rotation that cant even beat back boredom. its so bad that players are just quitting as soon as they hear the notes of the music.

    it would honestly help CT if it was moved.

    the massive in jump in fun from the CT raids to the Mhachi raids is so massive its ridiculous.

    please
    please
    please

    move the crystal tower raids into the main scenario roulette.
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    At this point when I get CT I just wait to see if someone else leaves, if nobody does then I leave and just take the penalty

    It’s annoying that the best casual content on the roulettes is locked behind the 95% chance you’ll get CT but at this point I just refuse to stay for CT raids

    I’ll take the penalty then when it’s over just queue for the high level raids directly and hope they pop
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    with the influx of new XBox players we're bound to get CT for some time yet for Alliance roulette.
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    You do not have to do alliance roulette every day. There are other ways to gain xp and tomes. The most important thing is having fun. If you're not having fun with alliance roulette, then don't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuella View Post
    You do not have to do alliance roulette every day. There are other ways to gain xp and tomes. The most important thing is having fun. If you're not having fun with alliance roulette, then don't do it.
    That’s the point I’m not doing the roulettes for experience, I’m doing them because I enjoy alliance raids and having to queue directly for the high level ones that take hours to pop while the roulette constantly pops CT is a problem
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    It's a flaw in scenario design oglf making CT Lv50 mandatory and the rest not while refusing to rework CT raids as they are way past their prime from sheer potency and stat adjustments.

    I do not agree of moving them into MSQ roulette, but something needs to happen to Alliance Raids as a whole.
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    I'd agree with moving it to MSQ roulette. It's a mandatory part of the MSQ, after all. If not that, I guess the easiest fix would be to fiddle with the iLvl sync, so that we actually see some mechanics.

    I don't love the CT raids but they go by so quickly that it doesn't really bother me. What does bother me is how long literally any ally raid takes to fill. I've been trying to get some coins from the EW ally raids in order to upgrade some gear and it is PAINFUL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    It's a flaw in scenario design oglf making CT Lv50 mandatory and the rest not while refusing to rework CT raids as they are way past their prime from sheer potency and stat adjustments.
    Mandatory isnt realy the issue, the issue is it wants to pop quickly for these. Too often i queue and see it pop instantly, only to get ST as lvl 80+ job.

    A system that at least tries to avoid this to happen would help. I dont care the queue is linear. and will pop whenever it finds 24 suitable people. Its counter productive for the later raids.

    I would make it in such way that when you queue, it takes the latest multiple of 10 as base level and use that for a seperate subqueue. These sub queues will have a system in place that will prevent too low level raids from popping quickly (the further away the level is, the harder it will force a fixed time in which it cant pop).
    For example each 10 levels apart from the subqueue you are in, adds a 5min margin to which raid is allowed to pop (with a cap of 15mins). And by giving it seperate tiers of waiting, it will focus you more towards the higher lvl raids.

    I dont care waiting for a raid if the raid is fun. Even waiting 30 minutes is better to me than CT (hence taking a penalty is no problem for me). And if i had to wait this long to see CT, i then at least would know the wait was long enough to know other raids werent likely to pop anyway (i would probably have left the queue at that point already or rejoined the queue with a lower level job knowing its going to be CT).
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    The amount of time during off peak that the queue will pop when you are queuing directly for a high level raid, someone will drop out then the queue never pops again because the roulette prioritises speed and dumps the other 20 people into CT to avoid them waiting for it to pop again is frustrating as hell

    When I queue for the high level raids for fun the system prioritising speed has caused me to wait hours longer simply because not all 24 people accept at the same time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    It's a flaw in scenario design oglf making CT Lv50 mandatory and the rest not while refusing to rework CT raids as they are way past their prime from sheer potency and stat adjustments.
    CT should absolutely have remained optional. It's trivial to write Shadowbringers in a way that doesn't require CT to introduce G'raha, the same way Heavensward was written without requiring the DRG quests to introduce Estinien. It was never necessary since 99% of G'raha's character development and relationship-building with the player character happens inside ShB anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I'd agree with moving it to MSQ roulette. It's a mandatory part of the MSQ, after all. If not that, I guess the easiest fix would be to fiddle with the iLvl sync, so that we actually see some mechanics.
    LotA and WoD still have some of the most interesting encounters of any alliance raid... or would, if the mechanics were ever seen.
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