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    FF7R inspired MSQ: Please stop

    Although I am aware that it is too late to change much about the plot and zones of 7.0, I urge the developers to consider carefully whether taking inspiration from FF7R is truly needed in any capacity.

    Yoshi P has said that they want to do a huge collab with FF7R, more than a simple seasonal event. This rang many alarm bells, not least because the last one that we had, with Nier:Automata, presented us with a story that did not integrate with FF14's world and lore.

    There are now rumors that the new expansion's story is FF7R-inspired. Although the chance is low, if this is the case: Please stop.

    We do not need Fate Whispers in FF14 defending Erenville from being killed by Sephiroth.

    We do not need random Sephiroth Echo flashbacks with absolutely no context through the MSQ.

    We do not need Krile to begin as a flower girl but then magically tell us all about what the Whispers are out of nowhere with no explanation (although, lately Y'shtola is basically filling that role of the Great Explainer).

    We do not need irrelevant and obnoxious villains like Roche who serve absolutely no purpose other than wanting to fight, because quite frankly we are sick and tired of budget Zenos clones.

    We do not need to see Papalymo come back to life in another timeline because we managed to defeat the Whisper bosses as the Lv100 boss in the MSQ.

    If the 7.0 MSQ is really FF7R-inspired as the rumors suggest, I guarantee you Square Enix, you will lose half of your playerbase.
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    I don't really know how it can be FF7-inspired. We'd need Shinra Inc (which is the Garlean Empire in this game) but we finished them off.

    We would need a climate change crisis like in FF7 and real life that is caused by burning fossil fuels. We could argue we are burning too much Ceruleum (which is aether), but it was mostly the garleans doing that I think unless the people in the blue mage story have been using it a lot too. We could argue this aether was being burned another way, by primal summoning, but we already solved that.

    It starts to look like we would need to visit another shard to find these circumstances.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Is it like a requirement or something to end all new posts with "if they do/don't do x then they'll lose x amount of player base".
    It's starting to just read like copy pastas.
    In terms of if it's ff7r inspired, I honestly don't care. The story can be good (or bad) regardless if it pulls in elements of another game or not. I'll judge it once it's actually out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I don't really know how it can be FF7-inspired. We'd need Shinra Inc (which is the Garlean Empire in this game) but we finished them off.
    I've always since the Garlean Empire as much, much more "The Empire" from FFVI than anything else. I mean, they're a technologically-advanced society which is huge into Magitek, which was invented in FFVI and the hallmark of the Empire there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    I've always since the Garlean Empire as much, much more "The Empire" from FFVI than anything else. I mean, they're a technologically-advanced society which is huge into Magitek, which was invented in FFVI and the hallmark of the Empire there.
    I always thought they had some Palamecian mixed in as well, since they also have normal technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I don't really know how it can be FF7-inspired. We'd need Shinra Inc (which is the Garlean Empire in this game) but we finished them off.

    We would need a climate change crisis like in FF7 and real life that is caused by burning fossil fuels. We could argue we are burning too much Ceruleum (which is aether), but it was mostly the garleans doing that I think unless the people in the blue mage story have been using it a lot too. We could argue this aether was being burned another way, by primal summoning, but we already solved that.

    It starts to look like we would need to visit another shard to find these circumstances.
    Sadly that may be the case.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Ah yes, 4Chan, where all "leakers" to be believed.

    The release, everyone guessed Summer.
    The jobs, I'm laughing. They got away from pets and double DPS, but suddenly, 2 DPS, pet job.
    "Blitzball but not in water and not call Blitzball", you got trolled hard. That's named handball or football.

    Don't trust whatever people throw on internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Ah yes, 4Chan, where all "leakers" to be believed.

    The release, everyone guessed Summer.
    The jobs, I'm laughing. They got away from pets and double DPS, but suddenly, 2 DPS, pet job.
    "Blitzball but not in water and not call Blitzball", you got trolled hard. That's named handball or football.

    Don't trust whatever people throw on internet.
    They ever stated that they got away from double dps? Because if they didn't, we'd need 1 more example to make this theory more beliavable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post

    Ill believe it, when I see it from the Official Source
    And not from some guy on an Chan Imageboard or whatever.
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    I feel the OP needs to learn and chill a bit more. Its just a game, no use pulling your hair out over the ifs and buts. At least wait until its offically before you decide to become a vortex of doom and gloom!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNight View Post
    Honestly whilst I suspect most of this is BS, I would be very happy with the Puppeteer job, its the one I have wanted ever since I started playing! Adored it in FF11.
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    Last edited by Hurlstone; 07-29-2023 at 12:32 AM.

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