About yoshi P comments on multiplayer for Dawntrail

[Ath192]

You also talk a lot about how the game is, but your lodestone shows you do almost no content...

33 mounts, and only 6k achievement points? I have over 20k pts and 160 mounts.

I realize this is all subjective, and people can have more than 1 character, but to make statements about the game like that when it seems you barely play is interesting.

I mean, we don't know if it's an alt first, and second, the points he talks about are real grievances for players that play a lot, like me. Quite frankly, I'm glad Yoshida sees our point, at least on the surface, if it enacts real change then he gets to keep his customers, if not he can take his chances on a revolving door of new players that quit as soon as they're done because the game is boring as hell now.

This is the sort of response why I still play, and confirms the fact that complaining is what got us this response. Now, he just needs to deliver and money will keep flowing, simple as that. I started complaining about the graphics and about the gameplay getting stale right as SHB was starting to get old, because both of those things were real problems, and both of them have now been mentioned and recognized as such.

[MonteCristo]

I mean, we don't know if it's an alt first, and second, the points he talks about are real grievances for players that play a lot, like me. Quite frankly, I'm glad Yoshida sees our point, at least on the surface, if it enacts real change then he gets to keep his customers, if not he can take his chances on a revolving door of new players that quit as soon as they're done because the game is boring as hell now.

This is the sort of response why I still play, and confirms the fact that complaining is what got us this response. Now, he just needs to deliver and money will keep flowing, simple as that. I started complaining about the graphics and about the gameplay getting stale right as SHB was starting to get old, because both of those things were real problems, and both of them have now been mentioned and recognized as such.

Exactly my point! If our concerns were so wild like half of the OF tries to insinuate it sureeee makes one wonder why yoshi is now agreeing that the game is getting stale and he falls asleep while playing. If it means i have to get torn down by white knights on here to fight for positive change then so be it.Whats funnier is i actually do play the game, have a house for my fc, do events often, and im geared to nearly max ilvl w completed relic weapon and im being questioned on whether i play the game.../comedy

[Jeeqbit]

Let's just be clear about a few things.

1. Nobody has hardly said, even on these forums, that Endwalker has been "full of multiplayer content". Objectively Island Sanctuary is solo content. Objectively we didn't get multiplayer content attached to the relic like before. You can do variant dungeons with others, but you don't exactly need to. You can do the MSQ dungeons with others, but you don't exactly need to. Criterions are virtually raid content that took some resources that were used to develop Field Operations, and many people avoid raid content.

2. It was previously announced, at Fan Fest, that there would be more multiplayer and more social content. This isn't "new information".

3. Yoshi-P isn't commenting on the amount of content, because there was plenty of content in Endwalker (albeit mostly for casual solo players and raiders, because we had more high-end raids than in any other expansion ever).

4. Yoshi-P is commenting on how fulfilling content is, which includes the hitbox being too big, mechanics being standard (I assume the in-out) thing and mechanics being telegraphed to the point that the party doesn't need to sit behind the purple line and discuss strategy which was originally intended from ARR release.

[LilimoLimomo]

I just want to caution folks against reading too much into what Yoshi-P says. If he explicitly said something concrete, then sure, expect it and get excited about it.

But if he's talking about high-level ideas about design direction without any concrete implementation details, this is an area that's ripe for misunderstanding and projection. So my advice in these cases is to temper your expectations, because the alternative risks setting yourself up for disappointment.

[Battler-Ushiromiya]

It's strawmen'o clock apparently

Utterly deranged and embarrassing take lmao

[Absurdity]

Utterly deranged and embarrassing take lmao

Pretty ironic coming from the guy who only shows up to spew the most unhinged takes to ragebait people.

[Ath192]

I just want to caution folks against reading too much into what Yoshi-P says. If he explicitly said something concrete, then sure, expect it and get excited about it.

But if he's talking about high-level ideas about design direction without any concrete implementation details, this is an area that's ripe for misunderstanding and projection. So my advice in these cases is to temper your expectations, because the alternative risks setting yourself up for disappointment.

100% He has lied or not delivered before. That's why results speak more than words. We just have to wait. But if he doesn't start his new 10 year arc good, there won't be a 10 year arc TBH

[Somnolence]

You also talk a lot about how the game is, but your lodestone shows you do almost no content...

33 mounts, and only 6k achievement points? I have over 20k pts and 160 mounts.

I realize this is all subjective, and people can have more than 1 character, but to make statements about the game like that when it seems you barely play is interesting.

What this has to do with anything? Mounts is just brainless extreme farming, not everyone cares about that.

[Reinha]

What this has to do with anything? Mounts is just brainless extreme farming, not everyone cares about that.

You get max 40 mounts from extreme farming, it takes a lot more content than that to reach 160 mounts. It's a decent reflection of how much a person actually plays the game because most types of content give a mount as long as you do more than just the unlock quest.

[TaleraRistain]

Msq isnt the only solo content i was referring to be honest even if we single it out this is an mmo..if i wanted to not play with friends or make new ones id be playing a single player game. Final fantasy has historically been a single player franchise and there are other games for that type of focus in honest opinion.

All XIV is doing is giving the option to solo the MSQ and then solo challenges with things like Deep Dungeon but those have been there since it was first introduced. The island was solo and they've said next iteration will be something we can have group involvement with. What they're doing is adding the element of choice, but the option to play with others (outside of something like a solo duty during MSQ) is still there.

Also, as someone who has played MMOs since the late 90s and has seen all kinds of styles, MMO just means we're all together at the same time in a persistent world. Early on EQ era MMOs tried to force grouping. As time went on, MMOs transitioned more to a model where players could group by choice. And those have been the more successful entries.