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    Volkai's Avatar
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    Kaiyalai Stacianodel
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Now let's see them drastically change a job you loved so much just to appease another.

    You are saying this because the current SMN fits your criteria. The main problem that bas been discussed here is that an entire playerbase, mind you who are also paying for subs, is that they are no longer represented. If the game didn't introduce pet systems from the get go, it will not attract people who like it. But the thing is, they did implement a pet system. It survived 4 expansions... then all of a sudden, they have completely removed it so abruptly just because what?

    That is something lovers of current SMN will never understand.
    Oh, you mean when they removed Thunder from Arcanist in patch 2.1? When they decided Gladiator's suddenly forgot how to use Daggers? When White Mages and Black Mages stopped getting one-handed weapons and Shields? When Protect and Shell were removed? Or when they implemented Red Mage in 4.0 but as a DPS instead of the Healer I had played it as in FFXI? When they removed Dark Knight's ability to use all of HP, MP, and TP and individual resources to fuel different aiblities? WHen they removed Flash from Paladin? When I could no longer create a Jank Paladin, before Jobs even existed, by cross-classing up Protect and Cure and Stoneskin?
    Yeah no, I DO understand.

    They killed the Class I immediately fell in love with at the relaunch, and then they deleted its long-rotting corpse and replaced it with a different Class, a different Job, one that carries the soul in a new body.

    As for your 'paying for subs' quip, my subscription is currently at 3,750 days, so we can set subscriptions aside with this conversation. Especially since only active subscribers can even post here.
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    Last edited by Volkai; 03-29-2024 at 02:39 AM.
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Volkai View Post
    Oh, you mean when they removed Thunder from Arcanist in patch 2.1? When they decided Gladiator's suddenly forgot how to use Daggers? When White Mages and Black Mages stopped getting one-handed weapons and Shields? When Protect and Shell were removed? Or when they implemented Red Mage in 4.0 but as a DPS instead of the Healer I had played it as in FFXI? When they removed Dark Knight's ability to use all of HP, MP, and TP and individual resources to fuel different aiblities? WHen they removed Flash from Paladin? When I could no longer create a Jank Paladin, before Jobs even existed, by cross-classing up Protect and Cure and Stoneskin?
    Yeah no, I DO understand.

    They killed the Class I immediately fell in love with at the relaunch, and then they deleted its long-rotting corpse and replaced it with a different Class, a different Job, one that carries the soul in a new body.

    As for your 'paying for subs' quip, my subscription is currently at 3,750 days, so we can set subscriptions aside with this conversation. Especially since only active subscribers can even post here.
    Were the changes you have mentioned as drastic as completely shoving an archetype aside for oversimplification? I find it rather absurd and insulting to compare it with those you listed as it pales in comparisson with they have done with SMN.

    As for the subs, be it 60 days or 3650 days, there could be a plethora of reasons for the parity between the # days subscribed but it doesn't take away the voice of those who have less.

    Bottom-line for my entire argument is that the game started with SMN being a pet job and drew in players like me to it. It survived for 4 expansions and then got shoved for an insulting oversimplified kit.
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