Whenever the term "old player" to decry any change I always remember the people who cried over the loss of Greased Lightning for Monks, the class-defining, high skill ceiling buff that was maintained by... doing 1-2-3 as usual. That's where I remember that, yes, "old players" words shouldn't be taken at face value. Specially in this forums, where people often get "I" mixed with "We, the players". And this comes from someone who hated thehow DRK got ironically butchered in the expansions they were the signature job for, Shadowbringers to an edgier WAR and still can't get over the loss of HW's SCH.

My issues with SMN aren't the "oh noes, it's just so different and EZ". My issue with SMN is that, for all the halfway through rework, it's still stuck with a rigid rotation with the illusion of "choice" or "variety". The only "choice" you get is to skip Gemshine or Summons if Bahaenix is back up during periods of down time which is... lol. If they actually finish the rework properly (the offenders being mainly Gemshine, Egis still existing and Phoenix being pretty much Bahamut with a heal on top), the old SMN can burn in a pit fire for all I care. Old SMN was also a dumpster fire and people are growing so accustomed to the new one, they're starting to forget.