Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
But that's my point. You're saying that listening to old players is a bad thing. The main point of contention is job design, and I'm saying if job design hadn't been simplified, the game would be at worst, just as popular as it already it, and at best, a little better thanks to less players having jumped ship because of the simplificaiton.
I really don't want to be unpleasant and generally argue unnecessarily. But there's a lot of bad faith in one area: claiming that all the old players are asking for something complicated, which implies at the same time that all the new players are brainwashed... And pretending that many requests don't confuse "interesting" with "unnecessarily complicated".