Bring summoner back please

[Vamp007]

What we have now in the game is a mage job do some spelll looks like avatars....
its not a summoner
Its bad and so sad to see how summoner end like so sad ...
And if they like all what this job have from spells and skill fine..... make it a new job .. why deleting summoner for this new mage job???

Now two of my friends have no desire to return to ffxiv ... and the reason is... what the dev did to the summoner
Please bring the summoner job back... or rename what we have now to illusions and make a new smmoner job

Summoner the one that fight alongside avatars

Thank you

[PrincessLily]

I love way summoner is now older ver just dots and boring.

[Supersnow845]

I love way summoner is now older ver just dots and boring.

Modern summoner is spamming one button while you play diet enchanter because your summons are meaningless and are just there to aspect your single button press

[rawker]

I love way summoner is now older ver just dots and boring.

Modern SMN is more boring. If you don't like to play pet jobs, then don't take it away from people who like it.

[Valence]

Heh, it's always the same thing with SE at this point. Something doesn't work well or has jank attached to it? Just delete it instead of fixing it, and replace it with something entirely different (when they don't have a choice, else they just won't replace anything to begin with) in order to alienate all the fans of said jobs in the process.

[Reimmi]

i at least want the pet to do something again. let it to auto attacks at least? and ideally add some OGCD's that make the pet do some attacks. And, let us choose to have the pet be attackable again so summoner can have a tank pet for soloing stuff again.
I don't really care about the dots, personally, but the pet class barely feels like one atm.

[Keichi]

But, whe have now a summoner.
Before, had whe summoned Ifrit "off screen", and keeped them. In the actually gameplay was it barely differently to normal mages.
Now, whe have a summoner, who use his familar for a certain task and resummon them all the time. That feels more like a summoner (ok, the old Version is more similar to f10 summoner, where the beeing stay for a longer time). And, it is even more lore accuratly. It was stated, that the egis wasnt a problem, because they was so small and stayed so shortly, that they dont hurt the area. But they stayed all the time by the old smr.

What they need to overwork is the cabunkle, who is now doing nothing (maybe combinied him with the egis, that he transform to the egis and attack from the place, where he stand, similary to the fairy of the scholar).

[ThorneDynasty]

It's a "real" summoner now if you don't look at the substance.

And really, was there any reason the flashy animations you love so much that gameplay be damned, couldn't have been attached to the more substantial job? We didn't need abandon the caster role or have a "rotation" that can be condensed to a single button macro that plays the job nigh perfectly for you, just to have precious big boom colors.

Why does the discussion always immediately reduce to "but animations" when that's just the skin for gameplay that's completely transferable?

[Supersnow845]

The summons aren’t earned and barely do anything, they show up and do a raidwide then disappear. Your rotation is almost unchanged and there is no choice

Why am I not actually controlling anything, why can’t I order my pet to do anything meaningful, why can’t I order or control the summons oh any way, why is my rotation literally one button

WHY is SCH literally a more thematically appropriate SMN than SMN

[Mecia]

None of the jobs in this game play exactly like past FF iterations so why is it that SMN is held to some set in stone standard? Its always the same complaint as well, DoTs this DoTs that when it was only a small part of your rotation.

Im going to say SMN was objectively more like a summoner when you actually had a summon out all the time.