Beastmaster a wasted opportunity

[Raikai]

Beastmaster could have been FFXIV's ranger a phys range dps with a whip or crossbow with the ability to summon/call animals for damage or buffs or whatever.

This game handles pet gameplay really poorly. The animals would need to be baked in animations like RPR's avatar, but then, it completely defeats the purpose of a pet job where the selling point is the capacity of micromanaging more than 1 instance of character - plus we'd miss pet choice, which is also anothe selling point of a classic MMORPG pet handler class. Unless they have big plans to address that, I don't think this kind of job would be easily featured in the main cast.

Said that, I think BST is the perfect candidate for a limited job because they can fabricate an independent pet battle system for it, like WoW did with their previously cosmetic pets.

[RyanCousland]

This game handles pet gameplay really poorly. The animals would need to be baked in animations like RPR's avatar, but then, it completely defeats the purpose of a pet job where the selling point is the capacity of micromanaging more than 1 instance of character - plus we'd miss pet choice, which is also anothe selling point of a classic MMORPG pet handler class. Unless they have big plans to address that, I don't think this kind of job would be easily featured in the main cast.

Said that, I think BST is the perfect candidate for a limited job because they can fabricate an independent pet battle system for it, like WoW did with their previously cosmetic pets.

I'd agree with you if there was evidence that they will handle beastmaster with the expectation you're holding out for them, given that the current implementation of the 1st limited job isn't something that is as interesting as it should be or could have been, itd be one thing if they implemented more content only a Blu mage can do thats not tied to its leveling, (like the carnival), also unfortunately much like how players & devs compared island sanctuary to something akin to stardew Valley or harvest moon it was anything but that and now we have players gearing themselves up to expect beastmaster will be the ffxiv version of Pokémon

Regarding your comment on the pet system I can't really say anything of its past quality but from my understanding it was better than our current setup but even so it's still something to base any type of speculation or desire on

[rawker]

Regarding your comment on the pet system I can't really say anything of its past quality but from my understanding it was better than our current setup but even so it's still something to base any type of speculation or desire on

This can easily be tested with SCH. Go summon your pet, order it to move around then click any pet ability like Whispering Dawn/Fey Illumination/Fey Blessing while it does not reach its destination. Once the pet goes to where you commanded it to go, it will immediately use the ability. There will only be a slight issue when you initially summon the pet, or it comes back either from Dissipation or Summon Seraph and then you immediately issue a command that is not Place/Stay/Heel/Guard/Steady.

The responsiveness is somewhat there.. Only thing missing that gives sluggish vibes to is that it moves at a snail's pace. Ideally, when we use an action/ability/spell/weapon skill, we are expecting it to do it right away. Think of pet movement as such.... Due to its slow base movement speed, it will take at most 5 seconds to reach its destination (depending distance). Also, it will greatly help with responsiveness if the pets can use actions/abilities as it is moving... similar to slide casting or to some extent, weaving.

[Ayden]

Sadly to them, it will be a wasted opportunity not to make BLU/BST an additional side content, something to do during patch downtime

[Keichi]

Question:
Is it allready stated, that it will be a class, where you tames differently beast?
After seeing Vincent again in f7 rebirth, came the idea, what if, it is a class, where you yourself transform into differently beast? Similary to the move from the reaper and Vincent.

[Manamaru]

Question:
Is it allready stated, that it will be a class, where you tames differently beast?
After seeing Vincent again in f7 rebirth, came the idea, what if, it is a class, where you yourself transform into differently beast? Similary to the move from the reaper and Vincent.

If I remember right, they said they'd talk about it later and that it would be coming in a later 7.X patch. It being a job where you morph into creatures would not specifically be for Beast Master. It'd be better off serving as a mechanic in a non-limited job. We've already had one job that , initially one of 2 pet oriented jobs, was stripped of its pet system for the sake of some that had this romanticized version of flashy one and done attacks; and now everyone has to eat the bowl of mush that was left because of it. Beast Master should be the job that brings back the pet mechanics.

[rawker]

Even so, the limited job still kicks in and you cannot still bring it to content that matter. It's like playing a game where it's a paid trial version.

Let's say a player decided not to participate in any end-game content for whatever reason. The fact of the matter is that the option is there but they consciously declined. Now compare that with someone wanting to do said end-game content but the job they wanted to play as is hard gated. While both pay the exact same sub, one is still able to play the job they want and still offered the option to experience the entirety of the game vs someone who really likes to play a job but is not allowed to because reasons.

That's why the entire limited job system is flawed to the core, for me.

[Chasingstars]

Even so, the limited job still kicks in and you cannot still bring it to content that matter. It's like playing a game where it's a paid trial version.

Technically worse than that. As even trial players can access stuff like deep dungeon or eureka, let alone being able to do raids or dungeons or trials.

[rawker]

Can it be a tank job where your character is still tanking but it is calling in pets to deal damage for you.

[WiccaP]

Im personally excited for the Beastmaster. Its actually making me want to give limited jobs a second chance. Plus I believe they said they were developing more content for limited jobs only. Also, if they continue creating more Limited, it opens up an entire secondary game within 14. It gives the devs the opportunity to do or try things that wouldn't necessarily work in the standard jobs/parties and gives more flexibility to players with expanded content that doesn't fit into the msq storyline. I think the main problem with limited jobs, is they only released blu and its been around for awhile, so it felt kinda stagnant and narrow. Adding more gives more options to play with and gives those of us who have gone through and leveled everything else, capped tribal quests, etc something else to do. Its optional, if we dont like them, its not necessary to play them.