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    FFXIV needs to stop accommodating Solo Players

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    They mentioned it already in the stream, that they will make more multiplayer content in Dawntrail.


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    If SE can do everything they say they want to in DT, looking like a legit good expansion.
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    I agree it's a mmo go play one of the 14 other ff games if you can't work with other people.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    I agree it's a mmo go play one of the 14 other ff games if you can't work with other people.
    The idea is to draw in anxious players who think they want to play solo (there are many of these), then as they go through the story solo they will often get pulled into the social aspect of the game by talking to people outside of dungeons, getting invited to an FC or the Novice Network.

    There are actually a lot of these players, who avoid this game because of the multiplayer aspects but still play the other FFs. It's actually clever to draw them in this way, because a lot of people who were once solo players just needed the push to interact with others. And drawing them in with solo content can work.

    Dawntrail is going to focus on multiplayer MMORPG content anyway, including field operations, large-scale raids and social interaction in cosmic exploration like there was with The Firmament. But it will maintain the solo stuff (Duty Support and variant dungeons) alongside it.
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    What is accommodating "solo players" tho? Do you mean people looking to play a single player game within an MMO. I like to Solo play a lot, like I PF alone, do dungeons alone, do my rouls alone, that's solo play, you're not going in with friends or Fc mates, just you joining randoms alone for the sake of completing content. Or we can take it back to the OG meaning back when MMOs allowed you to literally solo content if you were good enough and were an actual solo player, because thats not possible in XIV at all.
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    Solo players can go find another game. When you try to make everyone happy you make noone happy. This has always been true. IDK why Yoshi P and CBUIII keep trying to learn a lesson that's already been learned a million times by a million people. The game is called FFXIV ONLINE.

    Noone ever will say this was a good solo game. EVER. Let's get that out of the way. So hopefully it's a great multiplayer game, and they focus on that. The framework of the game is for multiplayer gameplay, so any solo experience will always be compromised because the game isn't meant for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    What is accommodating "solo players" tho? Do you mean people looking to play a single player game within an MMO. I like to Solo play a lot, like I PF alone, do dungeons alone, do my rouls alone, that's solo play, you're not going in with friends or Fc mates, just you joining randoms alone for the sake of completing content. Or we can take it back to the OG meaning back when MMOs allowed you to literally solo content if you were good enough and were an actual solo player, because thats not possible in XIV at all.
    I think you know what I'm implying, so I'm not going to waste my time explaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasiaaddict View Post
    I think you know what I'm implying, so I'm not going to waste my time explaining.

    The reason I'm asking isn;t to play coy, it's to help you make a correction as their is a Distinct difference between "Solo Players" which I stated, and "People who want to play the MMO like it's a single player game" which can affect how your feed back comes across when translated. The Term for Solo player is a well known term used for a specific player type and MMOs rarely cater to them as they're usually higher end players who are very skilled at the game and can carry by themselves or just outright solo group content with pure skill, a play style XIV functionally doesn't allow to exist. The latter are people who literally don't wanna play the MMO as an MMO.


    But you can be that way to and possibly make a point that can't be translated to Nihongo(The Japanese language) properly, or just outright not translated as some words we use literally do not exist in Nihongo. So it'll end up being them winging it with an explination that may still be wrong.

    Or you can be like that and miss the point, that works to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    The reason I'm asking isn;t to play coy, it's to help you make a correction as their is a Distinct difference between "Solo Players" which I stated, and "People who want to play the MMO like it's a single player game" which can affect how your feed back comes across when translated. The Term for Solo player is a well known term used for a specific player type and MMOs rarely cater to them as they're usually higher end players who are very skilled at the game and can carry by themselves or just outright solo group content with pure skill, a play style XIV functionally doesn't allow to exist. The latter are people who literally don't wanna play the MMO as an MMO.


    But you can be that way to and possibly make a point that can't be translated to Nihongo(The Japanese language) properly, or just outright not translated as some words we use literally do not exist in Nihongo. So it'll end up being them winging it with an explination that may still be wrong.

    Or you can be like that and miss the point, that works to.
    I don't get why you're trying to debate something that apparently has no effect on you. Everyone else here knows what I mean, and everyone is painfully aware of what Endwalker became of this; to people who wanted the game to have more singleplayer aspects.
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