Dawntrail Benchmark

[Jeeqbit]

The game would run alot better if they would enforce auto logout again seeing 5000 ppl in limsa isn't going to easy on some systems with this new update.

My laptop, literally without a graphics card, a HDD and only 4GB of RAM, was able to handle that in 2015. It really is not an issue...

[Ath192]

Well you can pre-order after if you don't know.

I know that it will because my specs are good...

I have a 4090 Jeeq. I just wanna see the damn benchmark and character creation lol. Nonetheless, the point stands that the benchmark should be out at the same time or earlier than pre-orders are available so the consumer can make an informed decision. Defending the delay helps noone.

[strawberrycake]

We got the Benchmark for Ew in July on the 11th in 2021, and we didn;t get anyform of a media tour until they did the EW event due to covid which took place near the end of October that year which took place over like 3-4 days. So that means we'll be seeing our benchmark sometime soon in the coming weeks and our media tour right before release.

[Jeeqbit]

We got the Benchmark for Ew in July on the 11th in 2021, and we didn;t get anyform of a media tour until they did the EW event due to covid which took place near the end of October

I think that was all due to covid as you said. Usually all these things happen about 1-2 month before release.

But we do know one thing. They are doing the 14-hour broadcast between 12-13th April. So perhaps it could be around then. If not, the media tour is in early May so the likely window is sometime between 12th April and early May.

[DPZ2]

I have a 4090 Jeeq. I just wanna see the damn benchmark and character creation lol. Nonetheless, the point stands that the benchmark should be out at the same time or earlier than pre-orders are available so the consumer can make an informed decision. Defending the delay helps noone.

Or the wise consumer will compare specs announced at Pax East today and make an informed decision.

The 'benchmark' is a marketing tool, not an analytics engine. It is also something that most other MMORPGs tend to skip entirely in their marketing campaigns.

Consumers can also wait until the marketing tool is released and still pre-order the expansion. It's not like Square Enix is going to prevent you from pre-ordering in late May or early June, although the physical collector's edition will most likely sell out within days of release, like it did last time.

[Ath192]

The 'benchmark' is a marketing tool, not an analytics engine. It is also something that most other MMORPGs tend to skip entirely in their marketing campaigns.

Is this truly the level of arguments we’re making here? Just how brainwashed does Yoshi P and SE have you? Are you some kind of bot? These are serious questions. Because this a pretty low IQ statement and I mean that as respectful as possible.

Here is the definition of benchmark according to google, just for your reference since you seem to need it:
a standard or point of reference against which things may be compared or assessed.

Now, forgive me if I sound pretty confident a benchmark is an analytics tool, and forgive me for assuming if they wanted it to be a marketing tool it would be called a marketing tool. In my world, words have meaning, and they’re clearly defined. So when people make disingenuous assumptions that words mean other things they don’t actually mean, they get called out.

What’s next? Cats are dogs? The moon is the sun?

Maybe SE needs to pay you a bit more or hire better people to defend them because this isn’t cutting it.

[Jojoya]

I already know after yesterday's announcement that my PC is going to barely scraping above minimum system requirements (I've had it for 6 years and it wasn't top of the line when I got it) but it's not going to stop me from pre-ordering. I've played below minimum system requirements in the past while scraping together money for a new system so I know what to expect and what I can do to compensate (and what I will need to avoid doing).

I have a 4090 Jeeq. I just wanna see the damn benchmark and character creation lol. Nonetheless, the point stands that the benchmark should be out at the same time or earlier than pre-orders are available so the consumer can make an informed decision. Defending the delay helps noone.

Benchmark usually comes out around the same time as the media preview.

There's no need to pre-order now. You can pre-order up through the last day of Early Access and still get the bonuses.

There's also no risk to pre-ordering if you want access to the bonus items sooner. They will not charge your payment method until the official release date. If after the media tour you're still not satisfied with what you're seeing, you can cancel your pre-order.

So you're fine whatever you decide. Pre-order now or pre-order later or don't pre-order at all. Unless someone is still in the process of leveling multiple combat jobs to 90, there is no benefit to pre-ordering right now. If they aren't a minion collector that simply MUST have the pre-order minion, there's almost no point in pre-ordering at all. Early Access queues will be a mess for most data centers.

We got the Benchmark for Ew in July on the 11th in 2021, and we didn;t get anyform of a media tour until they did the EW event due to covid which took place near the end of October that year which took place over like 3-4 days. So that means we'll be seeing our benchmark sometime soon in the coming weeks and our media tour right before release.

That was earlier than usual because of COVID messing up their normal pre-lauch schedule plus the release being delayed last minute.

Is this truly the level of arguments we’re making here? Just how brainwashed does Yoshi P and SE have you? Are you some kind of bot? These are serious questions. Because this a pretty low IQ statement and I mean that as respectful as possible.

Yet you prove his point. It's a marketing tool that you want access to before you make the decision to purchase.

Most games don't release a benchmark tool at all. Do you obsess over whether the other games you play offer a benchmark tool before you purchase and refuse to purchase if they don't?

You seem more like someone that's been brainwashed than he does. You think the tool is vitally important when it never has been for gaming.

Edit: found this link

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Li...-in_benchmarks

If you sort by benchmark release date in descending order, there have been 14 games released in the past 2 years that have offered a built-in benchmark.

If I try googling for games that offer a separate benchmark tool, I get directed toward third party tools and not tools provided by game studios/publishers.

If I try googling for games that offer a benchmark tool prior to the game's official release I get a ton of player complaints about having to purchase before getting access to a benchmark. FFXIV seems to be fairly unique in this regard (you can thank YoshiP the fellow gamer for that)

There will be a Dawntrail benchmark as we've gotten benchmarks for the other expansions. It's just not ready yet. They're probably still working on job animation graphics and the benchmark would be somewhat pointless if those weren't included.

[Raikai]

The 'benchmark' is a marketing tool, not an analytics engine

It might be behind the scenes or in their actual intent, but officially (and by description) a benchmark is an analytics tool to check if your machine can handle a game, and is treated like so.

It makes sense to expect it close to the preorder date.

[Bun_Vivant]

If I try googling for games that offer a benchmark tool prior to the game's official release ... FFXIV seems to be fairly unique in this regard (you can thank YoshiP the fellow gamer for that)

An underappreciated fact.

There will be a Dawntrail benchmark as we've gotten benchmarks for the other expansions. It's just not ready yet. They're probably still working on job animation graphics and the benchmark would be somewhat pointless if those weren't included.

More importantly, the benchmark will be worse than pointless if it doesn't create proper fem-Hroths and render them attractively. The character creation options and upgraded graphics seem to me to be far bigger unknowns than the frame rate. Imagine spending hours creating your new fem-Hroth only to have it look nothing like it did in the benchmark when in the game -- not good!

It makes sense to expect it [the benchmark] close to the preorder date.

It makes sense financially to start taking pre-orders when you're confident about when the game will probably be ready.
It makes sense reputationally to release the benchmark when the benchmark is ready.
There's no definite relationship between those two times: one is a projection based on estimates of the amount of work left to do, and the other is "when it's done." Also, because the benchmark has code the game doesn't need, it's technically possible for the benchmark not to be ready until after the game is, and to therefore be released after the game.

[Ath192]

Yet you prove his point. It's a marketing tool that you want access to before you make the decision to purchase.

Most games don't release a benchmark tool at all. Do you obsess over whether the other games you play offer a benchmark tool before you purchase and refuse to purchase if they don't?

Do you think before you type? Or even process the logic and implications of what you are replying to? Or do you just go ”oh, I know!! I know!! I want participate so I’m going to say things for the hell of it” even if it provides no value or logical argument for people to at least think over?

I do want to analyze the performance and score of the benchmark to make some decisions on my hardware and budget. Anyways despite you defining an analytics tool yet again and calling it a marketing tool as others there’s another point I’d like to make about how you think.

Mediocrity happens when people look around what others are doing and say that’s good enough. Just because others are not doing something that benefits the customer and half assing things doesn’t mean you should too, in fact, you should always strive to organize and develop things to the best of your ability.

But at this point, I think we all clearly know it makes perfectly logical sense to offer a benchmark at the same time as the opportunity to pay for the game. And so far, I haven’t heard arguments as to why this is not a good idea. We’ve only heard arguments from SE shills of “be grateful for what you have peasants! Some games don’t even do these things. Our lord and savior Yoshi P will release it when he feels like it and we will sing praises because he knows best!”

In the end, if you’re happy because you get to wait longer to see how it will run and can pay for it now there’s not much else to be said.