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    Quote Originally Posted by littlehobbit13 View Post
    A certain demographic of NA raiders will absolutely run over there to try and participate in what they believe is a raiding utopia and it's undoubtedly going to cause problems. It's foolish and naïve to think it won't.
    The timezone shift will stop the majority of NA players, who want to play on JP servers. I highly doubt, that the players will wake up at 5 or 7 am to raid on JP servers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    The timezone shift will stop the majority of NA players, who want to play on JP servers. I highly doubt, that the players will wake up at 5 or 7 am to raid on JP servers.


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    Nah, NA has a huge amount of EU players and the inverse is true for EU with NA players. And JP has a very large English speaking community with a lot of people from NA. All the possibility of Cross region raiding will do is allow people who don't wanna leave their friends and personal comforts to do it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    The timezone shift will stop the majority of NA players, who want to play on JP servers. I highly doubt, that the players will wake up at 5 or 7 am to raid on JP servers.
    Certainly possible, maybe even likely, but I've crossed paths with quite a few people who schedule their raiding around the timezones of other people so I guess we'll see how it plays out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    The timezone shift will stop the majority of NA players, who want to play on JP servers. I highly doubt, that the players will wake up at 5 or 7 am to raid on JP servers.


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    Timezone shift goes out window once a mega server is created, once a sizable population congregates on a server the population becomes so dense that it becomes active during all timezones and you get a Tranquility-lite server effect.
    SE is gonna need to implement measures that dissuade people from flocking into one datacenter, high ping is also not a deterrent in this game, it's perfectly playable with high ping
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlehobbit13;6428265A certain demographic of NA raiders will [I
    absolutely[/I] run over there to try and participate in what they believe is a raiding utopia and it's undoubtedly going to cause problems. It's foolish and naïve to think it won't.
    they'd quickly give up because of the bad ping they'd get
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Sure savage isn’t the endgame to everyone but DC travel hollowing out non aether/light/mana savage parties is a problem, this problem may get worse later on, people also said “nah nobody is going to leave Crystal because our PF is good enough” and surprise surprise crystals savage is dead [...] people will travel for the bigger PF listing options
    Yeah, it's one thing that the High-end Duty listings have all but vanished from Crystal PF, but there's actually way less regular content happening in PF as well post-travel. And that makes sense, because there's plenty of overlap between "raiders" and "players who enjoy combat content". If you're already on Aether for one thing, why would you go all the way home to try and see if you can get a PF together for another thing (especially given how tedious the transfer process is)? Travel hasn't only affected raiding in PF.

    It's interesting that you mention the desire for bigger PF listing options -- or more accurately it's interesting that more people aren't acknowledging that -- because that's literally how cities work. Densely populated urban areas whose most attractive feature for drawing people in is having lots of options all conveniently located. This is a video game example of how urban, suburban, and rural areas developed, much in the same way the WoW virtual pandemic ended up mirroring the actual approach to how a pandemic would develop and be handled IRL. Aether is the urban center, and Crystal/Primal/Dynamis are the suburbs people commute in from each day. The setting may be virtual, but the people are real, and most people behave remarkably similar across different environments.
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    Last edited by littlehobbit13; 03-19-2024 at 07:27 AM.

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    The stance is post farming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Yoshi-P has already mentioned that he wants to figure out how to make cross DC duty finder/party finder work, but that it's gonna require development of a new system to link players from different data centers.

    Meanwhile, cross-region travel as a functionality was already included in the overall development for Data Center Travel. Yoshi-P even mentioned that travel between physical data centers was "technically possible" back in January 2022, in the lodestone post confirming the launch date of the Data Center Travel system.
    All they're doing with this test is enabling this functionality, with a limit on what physical data center can be traveled to.



    It's almost like this is a test, and they're using the least populated datacenter to lessen any possible impact when shit hits the fan.
    Thought he said he wanted to but right now the latency and lag would be too severe to implement it anytime soon and at the moment they don't currently have a way to implement cross party finder/duty finder due to these limitations
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    I know people speculate on what might happen with this, and I have my own worries as well with the cross region travel, but I think the main thing that people should think about (or at least, I think about) is that we don't actually know what is going to happen once this becomes implemented, or if it becomes implemented, so that's what the test is for. We can assume things might end up like how they did with world travel, but from my experience from playing on both EU and NA, I feel like people most likely will not end up hoarding to other servers for raiding and such because each one has their own ways of raiding and their own strats/skills that differ between data center. Like I know people always said that Aether is the raiding server, but from my experience I always kind of found raiding on EU to be a bit more pleasant (no offense, just my experience lol) so it just depends on how you look at it. Literally the only reason why I am excited for this is so I can see my friends again on EU easier than with an alt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    Nah, NA has a huge amount of EU players and the inverse is true for EU with NA players. And JP has a very large English speaking community with a lot of people from NA. All the possibility of Cross region raiding will do is allow people who don't wanna leave their friends and personal comforts to do it now.
    Really I thought JP people hated English-speaking people on their server so much that they basically complain until oceanic was made to push everybody off their servers
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