Limited Cross Region DC Travel

[Abriael]

I think the fear is the cultural differences disrupting things on the JP worlds if too many random NA and EU players went there. Their beliefs about what is socially acceptable behavior vary quite a bit from ours. JP players have been very resistant to cross region travel where most NA and EU players are fine with the idea.

Players from all over the world including Japan have played together on FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 without the sky falling.

As someone who spends in Japan a quarter of the year for work, I'm fairly confident no sky would fall even in FFXIV 7.0.

[LianaThorne]

Players from all over the world including Japan have played together on FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 without the sky falling.

As someone who spends in Japan a quarter of the year for work, I'm fairly confident no sky would fall even in FFXIV 7.0.

I'm happy for you that you haven't ran into the very vocal communities of the game that want nothing to do with NA players, for example. Even on this forum I've seen several threads of people from the EU side of things saying that they'd kick people from groups if it became apparent from they were from NA (because apparently were all "self-obsessed Trump lovers who cant take criticism").

I've also personally been called a "stupid American" on the OCE servers on Day 1 of them opening up. Myself and others were curious to experience another region so we made alts, bought skips and joined up for an alliance raid as our own party. Our tank got aggro and proceeded to handle the boss the way he normally would (i.e. how a tank should handle bosses on the NA side of things). This infuriated several people who didn't want to do NA strats and resulted in basically flat out bullying towards anyone who was from NA (and no, before you accuse us of retaliating, we didn't. Tank even tried to apologize and explain how we literally didn't know but still got insulted for that lol). Probably the worst experience I've ever had in this game outside of my stalking incident.

It's also no secret that OCE was even created because JP didn't want to play with anyone who wasn't from JP and wanted to try to get the English speakers (OCE) out.

And let's not forget the recent postings of the JP member who is literally going around telling people to kill themselves for not greeting them properly.

I'm sure not everyone shares these viewpoints but I'm also not trying to put myself into toxic situations with people who don't want anything to do with me just because of where I live or will tell me to die if I don't study how to properly greet them prior to encountering them in a dungeon. At the very least they should improve their reporting system at the same time as this so issues that do arise can be handled quickly and efficiently compared to how they are now.

[Kaurhz]

This is huge!! - But it really should also come with cross-DC party-finder / duty finder in the long run, otherwise this will only exacerbate existing issues.

[GTK0HLK]

It's easy to say economic differences don't matter when you compare within the region, there's never been a massive difference in economy between DCs in a region.

The problem is that prices on JP are about 5 times cheaper than NA/EU, opening the gates without addressing that issue would allow NA/EU players to buy out the JP market to make profit on their home world, which makes the game worse for players on JP while bringing zero benefit to them.

Like it or not, that has to be addressed before cross region can be implemented.

The Market Controls.

They lose all their products, Crafters make more, charge more.

Players they spread the money around, and then it reaches balance.

Even though it isn't free game to heading everywhere/anywhere.

If it did include JP, JP would benefit the crafters.

AND SEEING AS JP LOVES to level characters.

it's not like those who do play, would automatically be out of materials, ingredients, crafts, mats.(difference you know)
They would gain much from outsiders in a instant.

Assuming they weren't smart and stockpiled, then raised the Anchor Price.

Markets overtime as self correcting.

[Aravell]

Markets overtime as self correcting.

You're talking from the perspective of the stronger economy, what about the non-crafters who can no longer afford things when prices get raised up?

Despite a lot of people having everything levelled on JP, not everyone crafts for profit, you'd be unbalanced the economy by introducing a bunch of gil that shouldn't be there.

But you have a different perspective, that's fine. The fact though, is that the announcement did mention economic differences, so the dev team is actually taking it into account that there might be a potential destabilisation of the market.

[Supersnow845]

I could honestly see them leaving it the way it is in the full version later

Materia is perfect as the global trading hub server, nobody is at a particular advantage nor disadvantage based on ping as everyone besides Australians will get mildly bad ping to Sydney, so raiding will stay on the local data centres (aether mana and light) but if you want to play casually with people from other regions you can meet and play with them on materia who can also act as the marketboard balancer between the worlds

There is no real need for you to be able to travel directly from light to aether for example and doing so risks all content concentrating on aether (and aether is bad enough as it is), if you want to RP or do casual content with worldwide friends then you can just all do it on materia

[Abriael]

There is no real need for you to be able to travel directly from light to aether for example and doing so risks all content concentrating on aether (and aether is bad enough as it is), if you want to RP or do casual content with worldwide friends then you can just all do it on materia

Which makes preserving any limitation completely meaningless and simply a quality-of-life flaw.

[Supersnow845]

Which makes preserving any limitation completely meaningless and simply a quality-of-life flaw.

What does this even mean, there has to be some inherent limitations to complete cross region travel or the entire playerbase is just going to fight for limited spots on aether, if you are absolutely chomping at the bit to see friends who are on other data centres you can meet in materia, ripping down all the walls just means we end up with aether and 8 pressure valves for aether which dynamis shows already doesn’t work

[Abriael]

What does this even mean, there has to be some inherent limitations to complete cross region travel or the entire playerbase is just going to fight for limited spots on aether, if you are absolutely chomping at the bit to see friends who are on other data centres you can meet in materia, ripping down all the walls just means we end up with aether and 8 pressure valves for aether which dynamis shows already doesn’t work

That's such a completely unrealistic depiction of the current situation that it isn't even funny. People from a whole region can already go to Aether without limitations, but I certainly don't see this massive migration you speak of.

It's always funny when I see people from Aether telling this fairy tale that everyone goes to their DC. That's simply not real.

If you think Japanese and European players would somehow decide to give up the chance to play with their own people most of the time to invade Aether en masse, I see a massive delusion here.

[Supersnow845]

That's such a completely unrealistic depiction of the current situation that it isn't even funny. People from a whole region can already go to Aether without limitations, but I certainly don't see this massive migration you speak of.

It's always funny when I see people from Aether telling this fairy tale that everyone goes to their DC. That's simply not real.

Yea people don’t permanently move to aether they just travel there to do most of their daily duties, an average DF run on aether will have more travellers than native aether citizens, I’m sitting in a eureka instance right now and 3/4 of the people in it aren’t from aether, our PF’s are full of people from the other data centres

There is an enormous influx of people who regularly visit aether, just because they don’t fully world transfer doesn’t mean they aren’t still coming to aether for most things, I’m certainly not seeing crystal DF drowning in people from jenova