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  1. #31
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    Lupi Leonhart
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    Na i pass. Personal i dont need it
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  2. #32
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    As for the differences in economy, that's absolutely irrelevant. There are plenty of differences in economy between data centers of the same region, and even between servers of the same data center. That did not discourage them from opening world travel and then data center travel, making that objection to cross-region travel simply an excuse.
    It's easy to say economic differences don't matter when you compare within the region, there's never been a massive difference in economy between DCs in a region.

    The problem is that prices on JP are about 5 times cheaper than NA/EU, opening the gates without addressing that issue would allow NA/EU players to buy out the JP market to make profit on their home world, which makes the game worse for players on JP while bringing zero benefit to them.

    Like it or not, that has to be addressed before cross region can be implemented.
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  3. #33
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    Asuka Kirai
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    This is huge!! - But it really should also come with cross-DC party-finder / duty finder in the long run, otherwise this will only exacerbate existing issues.
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  4. #34
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    Abriael Rosen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    It's easy to say economic differences don't matter when you compare within the region, there's never been a massive difference in economy between DCs in a region.

    The problem is that prices on JP are about 5 times cheaper than NA/EU, opening the gates without addressing that issue would allow NA/EU players to buy out the JP market to make profit on their home world, which makes the game worse for players on JP while bringing zero benefit to them.

    Like it or not, that has to be addressed before cross region can be implemented.
    Repeat with me:

    They. Are. Opening. Access. For. Everyone. To. The. Newest. Region.

    That 100% invalidates the economic concern and identifies it as an excuse.
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  5. #35
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    Selene Halflight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    It's easy to say economic differences don't matter when you compare within the region, there's never been a massive difference in economy between DCs in a region.

    The problem is that prices on JP are about 5 times cheaper than NA/EU, opening the gates without addressing that issue would allow NA/EU players to buy out the JP market to make profit on their home world, which makes the game worse for players on JP while bringing zero benefit to them.

    Like it or not, that has to be addressed before cross region can be implemented.
    The Market Controls.

    They lose all their products, Crafters make more, charge more.

    Players they spread the money around, and then it reaches balance.

    Even though it isn't free game to heading everywhere/anywhere.

    If it did include JP, JP would benefit the crafters.

    AND SEEING AS JP LOVES to level characters.

    it's not like those who do play, would automatically be out of materials, ingredients, crafts, mats.(difference you know)
    They would gain much from outsiders in a instant.

    Assuming they weren't smart and stockpiled, then raised the Anchor Price.

    Markets overtime as self correcting.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Oh yeah, being able to play with your friends anywhere they are without needing to make a new character is such a terrible thing

    Imagine thinking we should be confined to our datacenters and regions in 2024.
    Yeah it's definitely worth destroying every DC that isn't Aether just so you can pretend you have friends.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    Markets overtime as self correcting.
    You're talking from the perspective of the stronger economy, what about the non-crafters who can no longer afford things when prices get raised up?

    Despite a lot of people having everything levelled on JP, not everyone crafts for profit, you'd be unbalanced the economy by introducing a bunch of gil that shouldn't be there.

    But you have a different perspective, that's fine. The fact though, is that the announcement did mention economic differences, so the dev team is actually taking it into account that there might be a potential destabilisation of the market.
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  8. #38
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    Abriael Rosen
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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Yeah it's definitely worth destroying every DC that isn't Aether just so you can pretend you have friends.
    Ah, the drama. Imagine thinking that removing artificial barriers that should have never existed and giving people options would "destroy every DC that isn't Aether." Do you have any more scaremongering to share with us today?

    I've had friends in this game since the beta of 1.0 on Mysidia and then all the way through 1.X on Gungnir, when you likely didn't even know FFXIV existed, and before Square Enix decided to make the extremely silly move of splitting regions with 2.0 and sending us all our separate ways. So much for "pretending."
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    Last edited by Abriael; 03-16-2024 at 10:01 AM.

  9. #39
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    My concern is whether enough players will travel to Materia to give SE the data they need from the test. With it being an existing data center, some of the craziness that players were able to engage in during the cloud data center test wouldn't be tolerated. That would deter some participation.

    I can see some hunters going to Materia to get away from NA hunt congestion. Those with friends on Materia would also have reason to travel. But what would entice other players during the test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Can't wait for the rest of the planet to be forced to DC travel to Aether just to have an active PF too.
    If it goes live, there's always the possibility that SE will set things up to work as they will during the test.

    What if players will be able to only travel to designated regions/data centers based on current online populations and return to their home worlds instead of to any region/data center?

    I could easily see this happening in an attempt to balance congestion issues. We know that SE can shut down travel to specific worlds/data centers if there is a need. It wouldn't prevent friends from playing with friends - they would just need to meet on a world open to Travelers.

    Just like character creation locks, they can rotate which data centers are open to Travelers.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 03-16-2024 at 11:28 AM.

  10. #40
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    I could honestly see them leaving it the way it is in the full version later

    Materia is perfect as the global trading hub server, nobody is at a particular advantage nor disadvantage based on ping as everyone besides Australians will get mildly bad ping to Sydney, so raiding will stay on the local data centres (aether mana and light) but if you want to play casually with people from other regions you can meet and play with them on materia who can also act as the marketboard balancer between the worlds

    There is no real need for you to be able to travel directly from light to aether for example and doing so risks all content concentrating on aether (and aether is bad enough as it is), if you want to RP or do casual content with worldwide friends then you can just all do it on materia
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