Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
Thought:

if your average player can do what the game requires of them to progress, does it really matter if they did it particularly well?

Outside of a very specific set of content that will demand bad players get better in order to find groups to do it, there is no difference in reward for being good at the game, or just mediocre.

That tells me the players aren’t necessarily bad, but that the game is just not demanding.

It feels that complaining the average player is bad -in normal content- that can be cleared with NPCs is akin to complaining about player skill in games like Minecraft or Candycrush.
This type of thinking is exactly why it's an issue though. You're still on seven other peoples time, and given the role you're hoping someone else can pick up the slack and if they can't and you can't then it's now 6 other peoples problems. Playing in any online space on other peoples time is in of itself an agreement to at least try to do your best, and in the case your best is average or below, then yeah cool, no hard feelings. But if you can do better, or pull the extra slack, it's always nice to do so.

Because as much as people love to be gracious here, and in general in XIV, the average player is bad, And no, it's not because they die, It's not because they don't do high damage. It's because the average player is ignorant of the basic aspects of the games combat system and half of the time can barely keep up with some of the slower fights let alone the faster paced ones and then anyone expecting a max lvl player to understand what an invuln is, is now wrong and a bully in the eyes of the majority.


The issue is based in the inability to hold others to a standard. It's that simple.