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    Zeastria's Avatar
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    Nathaniel Lenox
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    Not all healing jobs are created equal, and that's fine.
    The jobs are quite balanced right now, more so at 90.
    In low lvl content, all healers are viable ..
    Some req more effort than others - Sure.
    But they're not weaker!.

    Also [Holminster Switch] can be hard on any healer
    if they lack experience with the role / job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeastria View Post
    The jobs are quite balanced right now, more so at 90.
    In low lvl content, all healers are viable ..
    Some req more effort than others - Sure.
    But they're not weaker!.

    Also [Holminster Switch] can be hard on any healer
    if they lack experience with the role / job.
    This is not a diss at AST mains. The other healers still have it easier at that level.
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    Kaeya Alberich
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    Is there anything similar going on with The Dead Ends (the final EW msq dungeon)?
    I don't know if I just had some really weird runs with tanks (all drk) that didn't mit properly or if my brain was on vacation everytime but it popped up in roulette a couple of times recently and somehow I really struggled during the pulls as AST.
    I don't struggle in any other lvl 90 dungeon and can manage just fine with all my ogcds and an occasional gcd if the tank doesn't mit well. Drks are generally not a problem either. But during those recent runs I was using all my ogcds and pumped out benefic 2s nonstop with no time to dps.
    I also ran it as scholar for comparison and ironically got a warrior that time but even then I felt like I had to use more gcds than in other lvl 90 dungeons. It surprised me because as scholar I generally don't need gcds at all during pulls unless something goes really south.
    I have a really hard time discerning if I was just incredibly unlucky and the tanks didn't mit well, if the problem was on my part (bc obviously I can't rule out that I made more mistakes than usual without being aware of it) or if that dungeon's damage is considerably higher than others' at the same level?
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    Last edited by Loggos; 03-19-2024 at 09:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    Is there anything similar going on with The Dead Ends (the final EW msq dungeon)?
    I don't know if I just had some really weird runs with tanks (all drk) that didn't mit properly but it popped up in roulette a couple of times recently and somehow I really struggled during the pulls as AST.
    I don't struggle in any other lvl 90 dungeon and can manage just fine with all my ogcds and an occasional gcd if the tank doesn't mit well. Drks are generally not a problem either. But during those recent runs I was using all my ogcds and pumped out benefic 2s nonstop with no time to dps.
    I also ran it as scholar for comparison and ironically got a warrior that time but even then I felt like I had to use more gcds than in other lvl 90 dungeons. It surprised me because as scholar I generally don't need gcds at all during pulls unless something goes really south.
    I have a really hard time discerning if I was just incredibly unlucky and the tanks didn't mit well, if the problem was on my part (bc obviously I can't rule out that I made more mistakes than usual without being aware of it) or if that dungeon's damage is considerably higher than others' at the same level?
    You triggered my ptsd when I read DRKs. When I initially returned after a long hiatus from the game, I leveled all my healers to 90 and all of them, consistently, I have struggled when healing DRKs. Special mention to TBN only DRKs. They're extra hard to heal.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Probably DRKs who forgot they’re not playing a WAR.

    Jokes aside… from tanking perspective, I have forced numerous Diagnosis/Cure I/Benefic I/Physick Mages to heal me thru all wall pulls in Dead Ends as a DRK. It was fine. I just had go make sure I can use TBN on cd and capitalize the heal gain from Abyssal Drains. Everything else is pretty much the same tanking business.

    Your tanks probably aren’t that good at spacing their mits or overspent their MP… or many other reasons.
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    Kaeya Alberich
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    Thank you for the feedback! Then perhaps this really was the case and it was just a lot of situational factors coming together.
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