Are you happy with role actions? If not, how would you rework them?

[Oizen]

I would like to see a mixture of role actions and cross class. All tanks get their 30% mit buttons at lv.38, but warrior just randomly has a straight up superior version than the other tanks. If you have warrior leveled, let the other tanks you play also have access to Vengeance. Same for their Endwalker mit buttons. Unlock their unique mit buttons for all other tanks once they reach the appropriate level. Warrior having access to TBN doesn't change much, other than having a better tank buster button. However, bloodwhetting on Dark Knight would absolutely fix their dungeon issues of having very little self sustain.

It would reward some versatility options for playing additional jobs and also bridge the gaps in the leveling process where some jobs feel like straight downgrades to each other. Why would I ever willingly choose to run a dungeon on DRK and have to pressure my healer when I could do it on WAR and sustain myself while also speeding up the run? This solution fixes that problem without stepping on any toes and universally makes all the tanks feel better to play since you could mix and match their mit buttons (all on a shared recast obviously).

Putting TBN on jobs that can't regen Mana wouldn't work. As you'd use it 3 times in a fight, get a dark arts stack you could never use, and then its basically gone for 45+ seconds.

And I think this would just homogenize tanks furthers as currently Nascent Flash completely shits on TBN and HoC in terms of power. There would be no reason to bring anything else.

[Colt47]

They should be cross class skills so that we got options in what we use for our secondaries. Right now all jobs have primaries (related to their dps), secondaries (related to mitigation, shielding, or healing), and tertiaries (Related to movement inhibition, crowd control, spell interrupt, etc). We should be able to set those skills based on what we got leveled, but they flatlined everything instead so we got a barebones experience. The system they have works but it is absolutely boring.

The other problem is they got no use for the tertiary skills anymore in the later game. There is such a thing as letting a game be a game, rather than a linear contest. No one is going to care if a boss can get stun locked, spell locked, etc, and such events could help with other issues the game has.

[Supersnow845]

Role actions to me are just like an antiquated relic in today's design of this game. I see the following issues:

1) A big chunk of those actions are useless in harder content, and even in the content they are actually usable, stuff dies too fast for them to even be remotely relevant

2) Uninspiring actions like Lucid Dream or Rampart, which could be so much more if they were unique mechanics to their jobs

Honestly, the only really 'needed' Role actions are the KB immunities*, Esuna and Provoke. The rest, I could see done with and corresponding effects baked in the job's personal utility kits so we get at least some distinction in that front, since Role Actions aren't really tied to damage performance.

* Even that one is questionable, because if a KB immunity is always up when a KB puzzle happens, what's even the point of the mechanic?

What’s annoying is that you can do some mechanics without KB immunity when the game obviously intends you to use it (bramble phase in E9 and junction shiva in E12 come to mind) but then the game provides you no alternative options to use it that could make a different phase easier

You either just press them to make the mechanic easier or don’t press them to gain zero benefit

[kayll]

My RDM got Sleep as a role action at the start of Endwalker, I cast it a total of one (1) time in the entirety of the expansion.
It was during Eureka Orthos to sleep an incoming patrolling enemy, the enemy was immune to sleep (of course), so they just aggro'd immediately which almost ended my run somewhere around floor 70-90, at that point I just took it off my bar.

Much rather would have gotten something useful from BLM like Manaward.

[Allegor]

At least Sleep is an aoe, it's useful in Eureka, Bozja, guildhests, and occasionally dungeons if/when the tank dies..... meanwhile, it's been literal years since I last used Repose.

[Valence]

I am not aware of any mechanic that is designed to require KB immunity, but there are strats that don’t work without it. (I might be wrong about that)

DSR has some.

[Jade_Tyrant]

It’s job flavour, esuna was specifically designed as a water action because it was designed for WHM, the other three healers aren’t water based healers (though to be fair I have no idea what element SGE is supposed to be aspected to) so using a water VFX feels rather out of place, it’s not the name esuna it’s the actual action itself

If anything, I would have expected 'Leeches' to have been more water-aspected, given that the healing practice that the spell is named after was originally derived from utilizing marine creatures. Airborne Leeches would be somewhat worrying.

Got curious about this and tried to find a video that showed Leeches being cast.

Found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuRGYfecVxQ

The color on the Leeches cast seems to be blue rather than green, which from what I've seen of what people say, indicates that Leeches was Water and not Wind anyway.

[SailorCeti]

I think they're fine. The only thing I would do is make them all have the same number of abilities. Right now, some have six, while other's only have 5.

[Nadda]

Role Actions are in an okay spot I think. I was talking to someone before about the possibility of maybe post level 100 we could instead of making jobs make specs for each job we got.

So you could be like a Dark Knight DPS spec where some of your abilities change to be more dps orientated and you share the melee dps role actions.

[Eastwall]

It will be really funny to see how people can't figure out how to use esuna and interject. just like how some people can't figure out how to press addle and feint on raid wide.