Quote Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia View Post
Wrong yet again sir. The games engine is the biggest issue and until 2.0 comes out the game won't even be able to reach something akin to perfection. I don't see him purging the game of all these things you claim didn't work, even Tanaka said before that the fatigue system was never planned on being a permanent thing. Also Yoshi-P said and stayed true to keep the game in Tanaka's orginal image. You assume everything Yoshi-P has added was his idea, he was following the Tanaka guideline up to a certain point. I don't see this game being gutted like you said it is.
Lets see: Fatigue is long gone. Physical levels are already gone and the base classes are already marginalized by Jobs. Battle Regiment is dead and coming back as something more like skillchains. Behest and caravan are being completely redone. Leveling will revolve around quest hubs and instanced dungeons. The engine, the ui, the zones. Heck, as much as we've talked about 2.0 distinguishing itself from FFXI and WOW -- the truth is that it is really an attempt to get away from FFXIV.

People weren't in love with fatigue system and actually on the poll he was surprised to see people wanted physical levels to go, though I think a lot of us misinterpreted what it would mean after physical levels were gone. Physical levels was never an issue and that only changed because he decided to approach that game with the fans in mind. He started doing the polls and all that and let people decide how they want the game to go. Was it a big loss? No, but was that aspect of the game hurting or sucked? no.
They were two of many.

I admit it was popularized by WoW but it was around before WoW. Thanks to wow it has become a streamlined feature that all MMORPGs implement.

I am not dismissing everything as a streamline feature I am simply calling it as it is. You know calling a duck a duck and not a chicken! All those features are streamlined in the new MMOs, take a look at them like Guild Wars 2 or Tera etc and other games that just came out or coming out and features like these are implemented from the start. I never said they aren't looking at other games for inspiration, in fact I said that is what they are doing but they are rehashing and reinventing tried and true systems and bring them about in a fresh new way. Beside the content finder, not much can be changed with something like that. Any who I am done arguing with you have fun believe whatever it is you wish to believe. Have fun being bitter
Right... so how am I wrong to say that it is something they are taking from WOW? I don't see how it matters that everyone else is doing it. Anyway, I'm glad that you're done trying to argue this. Ciao.