Of course I'm aware they're not guaranteed to spawn. I've done my share of sitting around a couple of extra hours for Lamp, Wulgaru, Theda and Zona after their windows capped waiting for RNG to finally trigger. I've done my share of Ixtab/Rumi/Sphat spawns where the window is at 10/25/40/60/85, even 98% just to come up empty handed and so have to give them another try. All those hundreds of thousands of gil spent on Wyvernskin maps just to have to assume that someone got the spawn early in the window because the 8 Hinterlands maps (out of 50 maps attempted) you and your fellow spawners came up with at 120% still didn't spawn it, same with Agrippa and poetics for Mysterious Maps.
Complain if you want but you know going in that the spawns are not guaranteed once the window opens , frequently aren't guaranteed even after the window caps, and SE isn't interested in making them guaranteed. It was your choice to make the attempt.
That is part of the Hunt - the chance that you won't catch it, or someone else got it before you. We joke and complain among ourselves while we're out spawning yet we're all going to be right back at it because that uncertainty factor is part of what makes the Hunt interesting and fun. For us, it's not just a loot piñata that so many others see it as because we're out there doing the work instead of waiting others to do it like most of the community.
Here's the difference - if I miss out on a S rank because I'm in the middle of spawning a different one, I don't complain about it. There will always be more S ranks getting spawned. I don't care if I'm getting my achievements completed 6 months after others have them done. It is not a speed race. It is not a competition.
So can it yourself. You're acting entitled.
Your problem on Primal is Faloop. Flat out. It is making up its own rules and trying to pretend the entire community is supposed to follow those rules when that is 100% false. It is SE's game and they make the rules. There are players out there hunting by SE's rules then the Faloop people get pissy because someone dared not to submit to Faloop's assumed but non-existent authority.
The hunt community has been there all along. Those that were part of it prior to Shadowbringers understand that if you wanted to be part of a kill, you dropped what you were doing and you got there as soon as possible so you wouldn't miss out. Most of the time, everyone got their just fine to participate.
It's only in the last 2 expansions that we're started seeing all this massive entitlement from players who want rewards for no effort because streamers started talking about what a great source of rewards the Hunt is. All of a sudden the Hunt has turned into "everyone else is supposed to stand around twiddling their thumbs for 10 minutes because I can't be bothered to stop what I'm doing" or "everyone has to wait for me because I was on a different world".
No. That extra 10 minutes represents 1,000 minutes or more of wasted game time (depending on how many showed up) for the sake of the one or two individuals who think they are special and that everyone is supposed to wait on them.
We've all got other things we want to be doing, whether it's hitting up a roulette, raiding with friends or spawning the next S rank. If it's taking you more than 3 minutes to get to a S rank after it is spawned, there is something wrong on your end. You need to figure out what that is and fix it if you expect to make it to more spawns.
You can't get everything you want. The Hunt was not designed to accommodate everyone every time, nor can it be. Server stability is an issue when too many players descend on the same zone not to mention the latency and FPS issues that many will end up experiencing.
You make it to some, you miss others. That's the way it's always been. That's the way it will always be.
That is the Hunt.
Who is deeming them poachers?
If I'm out scouting and run into a group killing one of the hunts, I'll let them know I'm scouting, when I expect to start the train if they want to join it and then wish them good luck with the kill, have fun and move on. Once I finish scouting, I'll go back to see if they killed it and then update trackers if they did. That's it.
Maybe they need to log off before the train starts and want to at least get one kill in. Maybe they aren't aware that there is a hunt community that organizes trains. Maybe entitled people in the hunt community have harassed them in the past and they want nothing to do with it as a result. They aren't poachers. They have just as much right to kill the hunt as anyone else.
I'm not going to harass someone for playing the game as SE intended and within SE's rules. They found it first, they attacked it and they will most likely kill it. They have done nothing wrong.



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