The Hunt is garbage and needs to be fixed

[Infindox]

Even if people use the plug in or go onto a Discord server, a lot of ARR/HW/StB S ranks get pulled almost instantly. I've acted before on pings on what is considered to be the best Discord server for hunts, and *even on my own world* I get to the area and it's dead already. Later expansion S ranks last longer, but many times they get pulled anyway before getting there.
I love hunts, but it's telling when a system should be changed when even spawners can't get to what they worked for.

[Jojoya]

Even if people use the plug in or go onto a Discord server, a lot of ARR/HW/StB S ranks get pulled almost instantly. I've acted before on pings on what is considered to be the best Discord server for hunts, and *even on my own world* I get to the area and it's dead already. Later expansion S ranks last longer, but many times they get pulled anyway before getting there.
I love hunts, but it's telling when a system should be changed when even spawners can't get to what they worked for.

How often does that actually happen when the spawner is paying attention and focusing on getting to the S rank?

The last time I missed out on killing something I spawned was because I chose to answer questions from someone new to hunts rather worry about what was happening to the S rank. I missed out on kills on maybe two other occasions since I started spawning around 4.4. Sure, I've gotten to the S rank on a few occasions where someone had already pulled but I was still able to get my hits in for credit.

The extremely rare occasions I've heard spawners complaining they missed out, they've admitted they missed out because they allowed themselves to get distracted by something (that was usually outside of game).

I don't deny that it has happened. I will disagree that it happens as often as some make it sound.

[Reinha]

Authority is a real thing but it is a social contract made between Conductors and those that choose to follow thems. It does not apply to anyone whats not part of the Hunts Train. Every single Conductor Mao has followed understands this and to best of Mao knowledge, has never tried to push weight with others not within Hunts Trains. Peoples whats part of Hunts Trains willingly cede control to the Conductors whats organizing the events.

Exactly. It's a mutual understanding that taking part in The Hunt in an organized manner will lead to a better experience for both conducters/spawners and the people who just show up to get kills. Personally, I have had a fantastic time with the Faloop community and gained a ton of progress for my achievements whilst doing a tiny bit of spawning for fun.

Anyone who doesn't want to follow a Discord channel's guidelines is free to do so but they should be aware that the Discord community does not owe dozens of S ranks and hundreds of A ranks per day to someone who disrupts the events on purpose. Just as people have the right to kill any mark on sight, a player made community has the right to exclude people who aren't working towards the same goal.

Most of the time the calls to not attack a hunt are done with the assumption that whoever engages too soon is new to hunting and doesn't know what goes behind the scenes to make it possible. And most of the time that assumption is correct. People usually come to the same conclusion that cooperation benefits them a lot more than a single kill.

I'm not a fan of the idea of making hunts home server only, mainly because I don't see the need to have less massively multiplayer content when we can have more.

[Jojoya]

Anyone who doesn't want to follow a Discord channel's guidelines is free to do so but they should be aware that the Discord community does not owe dozens of S ranks and hundreds of A ranks per day to someone who disrupts the events on purpose. Just as people have the right to kill any mark on sight, a player made community has the right to exclude people who aren't working towards the same goal.

Once again, someone from Faloop speaking as if the Faloop community owns the Hunt.

I'm not seeing anyone asking to be part of Faloop or complaining about being excluded from Faloop.

I'm seeing people asking for Faloop members to stop harassing them because they're choosing to Hunt when they want instead of waiting until Faloop is willing to allow them to hunt.

[Reinha]

Once again, someone from Faloop speaking as if the Faloop community owns the Hunt.

I'm not seeing anyone asking to be part of Faloop or complaining about being excluded from Faloop.

I'm seeing people asking for Faloop members to stop harassing them because they're choosing to Hunt when they want instead of waiting until Faloop is willing to allow them to hunt.

I don't own the Hunt and I'm not harassing people though. What a paranoid thing to say especially when you quoted my words "people have the right to kill any mark on sight".

I'm not seeing anyone be harassed for spawning an S rank themselves and then killing it. Could you show me who you are talking about? Or are you doing that thing again where you speak for people who don't exist?

Don't complain in shout chat about early pullers. There is no such thing by the rules of the game.

There is also no rule in the game that states one can't complain in shout chat.

[Thurmnmurmn]

I don't own the Hunt and I'm not harassing people though. What a paranoid thing to say especially when you quoted my words "people have the right to kill any mark on sight".

I'm not seeing anyone be harassed for spawning an S rank themselves and then killing it. Could you show me who you are talking about? Or are you doing that thing again where you speak for people who don't exist?



There is also no rule in the game that states one can't complain in shout chat.

They had a bad experience with faloop in the past so now they just speak against anything promoting faloop. But yet I've seen them promote centurio hunts which is essentially the same thing.


My suggestion for hunts (that I made in another thread) is to add a invuln buff on the S ranks for x amount of minutes. However give the spawner(s) a buff as well that allows them to void the invuln if desired.

[Bellsong]

System is chaotic> players try to bring order too it/Ask for mob health scaling

"NoOoOoO You can't do that!!!! Stop being entitled!!! Don't ever complain!!!"

[Thurmnmurmn]

Something else I just thought of.
Something that would be a nice addition would be a global chat. As it stands right now, S ranks/hunts are called via discord and linkshells/cwls. If you don't use discord then the relay may potentially be like 4 mins into the spawn already (per example). Adding a global chat would allow one relay to hit everyone instead of relying on a game of telephone.
It doesn't have to be a chat for hunts only either. The down side to this idea though is that people would probably turn that chat off if venue/FC ads end up in there too.

[george357]

the hunts have been and always will be a mess same as pvp so no amount of curseing will change this i will continue to play this game and not be bothered by these people doom saying this game will die.

[CVXIV]

Something else I just thought of.
Something that would be a nice addition would be a global chat. As it stands right now, S ranks/hunts are called via discord and linkshells/cwls. If you don't use discord then the relay may potentially be like 4 mins into the spawn already (per example). Adding a global chat would allow one relay to hit everyone instead of relying on a game of telephone.
It doesn't have to be a chat for hunts only either. The down side to this idea though is that people would probably turn that chat off if venue/FC ads end up in there too.

That's actually something I touched upon in the thread about RP shouts. I believe one of the points I mentioned was about a global chat, since that seemed to be something suggested for those advertisements but honestly that would work much better for hunts to let everyone across the server know what's going on. Could be for rare fates too like Chi for example.