The Trinity System in PVP

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

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Definitely true to say that Healer was not the only role that mattered. Melee had fairly important impact to actually pumping out enough damage, Caster had significant burst support and Ranged came in with additional CC and decent damage.

However while a game cannot be won by a good Healer alone you have to admit that Healers had a significantly higher skill floor.

Good melees and ranged won you games, good tanks stabilized games but good Healers were a necessity to even give everyone else a chance. This make-or-break design is what made Healers both the most stressful role and the most necessary one.

I for one am glad for asymmetric job design with Healers not having a lion's share of healing tools.

[Eastwall]

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Also: being a Healer in the Feast was extremely stressful wich is probably the main reason the trinity got removed. Not to many had enough endurance to play and stick to the healer role until they got good enough.

I can attest to that. I played restoration druid, discipline priest, And Holy paladin in warcraft, So naturally my first pick in pvp is healer. Boy l got flames So much for being new(including people tagging me in discord and telling me to stop playing healer). I do not miss the old days. However, l got to admit that l made me feel l truly earned "platinum wolf" as a scholar/astrologian.

[Burmecia]

• And: Healers being revised back to full-time healing

And so, how will you encourage tank/dps to help healers to stay alive? If you want to crub their damage dealing potential (supposedly), to give them whole bunch of new heals.
If I were made healing healer again, I would demand all of us to have un-nerfed Miracle of Nature at least, and some form of mean aoe cc (unnerfed Gravity?), because there ain't tank/melee/ranged/caster in pvp who is more interested on me sprinkling some hots or whatever rather than their own kills.

So no, if playing properly you wouldnt be "nuked"

Only way I ever got dps off of my hail in Feast was to sleep/stun/whatever-was-available them to shadowrealm.

[Valence]

So i played Healer back in the Feast (Scholar) and achieved top 100 with it. While the Healer did have a huge impact, i do not think that it is accurate that only the healer mattered.

I had my fair share of matches where i outhealed the enemy healer tenfold but nothing died on the enemy side until i just ran out of mana. Tank Stuns and DPS CC mattered a lot especially later in the high tiers.

Also: being a Healer in the Feast was extremely stressful wich is probably the main reason the trinity got removed. Not to many had enough endurance to play and stick to the healer role until they got good enough.

The role spread was a lot less prevalent in top 100 or diamond than in lower ranks, where the skill of the healer was the defining factor for the game and outweighed every other consideration like damage, burst syncing, etc. The Feast was essentially balanced around diamond and top ranks more than anything, which isn't to say that it's an oddity in multiplayer gaming since pure balance usually matters at the top level the most, but it becomes a problem when it generates fundamental issues like this at lower skill play.

[Absurdity]

So i played Healer back in the Feast (Scholar) and achieved top 100 with it. While the Healer did have a huge impact, i do not think that it is accurate that only the healer mattered.

I had my fair share of matches where i outhealed the enemy healer tenfold but nothing died on the enemy side until i just ran out of mana. Tank Stuns and DPS CC mattered a lot especially later in the high tiers.

Also: being a Healer in the Feast was extremely stressful wich is probably the main reason the trinity got removed. Not to many had enough endurance to play and stick to the healer role until they got good enough.

You actually brought up another issue but primarily in casual play.
Almost every engagement in Frontlines was just a massive zerg where nothing died for minutes until one faction's healers ran out of MP, it was incredibly boring.

[Niroken]

You actually brought up another issue but primarily in casual play.
Almost every engagement in Frontlines was just a massive zerg where nothing died for minutes until one faction's healers ran out of MP, it was incredibly boring.

Or they just targeted the healers first, which getting instantly nuked was always fun....not really.

[Kurbb]

Or they just targeted the healers first, which getting instantly nuked was always fun....not really.

then youre not playing right. As a team, you protect your healer and the healer keeps you alive. So no, if playing properly you wouldnt be "nuked"

[Mistress_Irika]

then youre not playing right. As a team, you protect your healer and the healer keeps you alive. So no, if playing properly you wouldnt be "nuked"

Annoy enough people on the other side, and they will find a way to nuke you on sight.

[maximesan514]

6.1 was a net destruction of what pvp was, this casual shit has gone too long. DRK is still the meta after almost 2 years. borrrrrrrrrringgggg

[RevenSix]

I have to agree, I also miss a more defined trinity in PvP. I don't think there is a need for a strict trinity like in PvE, but, everyone having a bunch of heals and shields does remove a lot of the MMO feel that I'm personally used to. Also makes gameplay more zergy and smaller battles impossible as it stands.