House Auto Demo'd when I've entered Recently

[LilimoLimomo]

Seriously regardless of any emails, supposed not warnings and surprises, if you had a house for 45 days and you not even a single time entered on it, i'm sorry but you didn't 't deserve a house
You guys claim you loved it so much but seriously we're talking an entire month without entering

It just feels people want a house more because it's ultra limited at the moment rather than actually use it

I'm sure that this varies from person to person, but in my experience houses generally function as social spaces. You decorate your house in a manner that creates the ambience you want, and when you finish you have a nice place to hang out with your friends.

But when there are content lulls (like there is right now) and your friends take a break, you can end up with nobody to invite over. At which point there's not much activity to be done in your home until your friends return. But when they do, your home will once again serve its purpose.

[IDontPetLalas]

Seriously regardless of any emails, supposed not warnings and surprises, if you had a house for 45 days and you not even a single time entered on it, i'm sorry but you didn't 't deserve a house
You guys claim you loved it so much but seriously we're talking an entire month without entering

It just feels people want a house more because it's ultra limited at the moment rather than actually use it

I understand how you feel, since housing is so limited, however without knowing someone's personal circumstances that really sounds rather harsh. You never know if they were seriously ill, or if there was a serious environmental issue - having been through some serious storms where I had no power for several weeks (albeit that was truly exceptional). I can imagine how I could accidentally lose mine.

[WantlessYoYo]

I understand how you feel, since housing is so limited, however without knowing someone's personal circumstances that really sounds rather harsh. You never know if they were seriously ill, or if there was a serious environmental issue - having been through some serious storms where I had no power for several weeks (albeit that was truly exceptional). I can imagine how I could accidentally lose mine.

Absolutely and i agree, i'm not talking about "Haha looser you lost your house, suck it", anything can happen and that's fine, but understand the situtations you put as well are not the norm but the exception in most cases

But loosing your house and then complaining you did so when you (in the case) absolutely could is just a joke when lots of people at the moment crave for one

[PercibelTheren]

Seriously regardless of any emails, supposed not warnings and surprises, if you had a house for 45 days and you not even a single time entered on it, i'm sorry but you didn't 't deserve a house
You guys claim you loved it so much but seriously we're talking an entire month without entering

It just feels people want a house more because it's ultra limited at the moment rather than actually use it

I'm not complaining about the demo anywhere, though? Honestly, I'm kinda glad it happened because I'm finally free to unsub and/or go for a Medium instead in the future. It's just annoying that I didn't even get notified that it happened. It was just gone one day.

[HeyMcFly]

My house got demolished a while back with no warning. I was surprised about it but I'm willing to accept that 45 days had run by without me noticing. However, I made sure to comb through my email, even the spam folder, and found absolutely nothing. I found out because it no longer appeared on my teleport list, completely out of the blue.

I've heard people saying they never got an email, I do believe them
I know my bf who 'got me a house' never received any emails- his ff is registered to a junk email and he never deletes the emails there, and combing through the list never received any of these- so I screened my own demolish (i intentionally let my house go) not to disprove anyone of never getting these emails, but to show what it looks like they're *supposed* to get.

Some people have even lost a house even after entering it, but others said "its bc you didnt interact with anything inside" like why does this game have to have such specifics?
Housing shouldn't be as limited in availability as it is; sure if they want to tie it into activity & subscriptions as it currently is then great- but the housing situation still falls short due to shortsightedness.

[Avoidy]

This is like the fifth thread I've seen on this exact issue. At this point, I'm just inclined to give OP the benefit of the doubt. Bugs happen to the best devs, and it's not like CBU3 are some infallible coding gods who never make mistakes. They tried putting a glam dresser in houses and it bricked the game ffs. You guys really wanna go to bat for these devs when the same bug issue threads keep cropping up?
I hope your report goes through, but yeah, odds are they'll just say you messed up somehow or misread a calendar or something. I tell you what though, I enter my house every goddamned day so if this happens to me I'll make the same thread and then immediately cancel my sub because real talk, that house is like 95% of why I'm subbed atm.

[CidHeiral]

Bugs happen to the best devs, and it's not like CBU3 are some infallible coding gods who never make mistakes. They tried putting a glam dresser in houses and it bricked the game ffs. You guys really wanna go to bat for these devs when the same bug issue threads keep cropping up?

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

[Raven2014]

This is like the fifth thread I've seen on this exact issue. At this point, I'm just inclined to give OP the benefit of the doubt. Bugs happen to the best devs, and it's not like CBU3 are some infallible coding gods who never make mistakes. They tried putting a glam dresser in houses and it bricked the game ffs. You guys really wanna go to bat for these devs when the same bug issue threads keep cropping up?

Or maybe we simply want to see some actual "proof" before we believe the accusation? Like other had said, no matter how many time this come up people never produce any kind of proof beyond the " just trust me bro" level. I remember there was one case the person who lost the house went as far as claiming they actually talked to a GM, had the GM investigate, claimed the GM "admited" the issue but told them there is nothing can be done. Guess what happened when asked to provide proof of that exchange? Just trust me bro, everything happened exactly like that because I told you so!

Your logic is also weird if not a bit anarchist. First, it's like you accusing someone of wrong doing, and you believe because the fact no one is perfect, that's itself is proof enough they're guilty of the fault you accusing them? Secondly ... 5 threads? Well, I can tell you there are actually more, but even if you double, triple, quadrupble that amount it still doesn't mean anything without hard proof, not to mention it's still a very tiny number considering thousand if not ten of thousand players own a house.

Just a funny story to share:

When I was a student one of my job was working as a lab assistant. And it was almost a daily occurrence that a few people would lock themselves out of their accounts for typing the wrong password. Yet usually, maybe 1 out of 50 has the honesty to admit they just forgot or using the wrong password. The computer is stupid! I know I used the right password!! .etc. are more common, and often they will take their frustration on everything (the machine, the programs) and everyone else (the assistant, aka me) but them. Well, I worked for years, and you know the number of time it turned out the fault lied with system? Zero. But according to your logic, just because more than few people having the same issues, there must be something wrong with the system, right? Heck, back then some of the program didn't have hashed PW and just store it in plain text. I had to deal with people who were steaming and yelling, adamant that they had the right password. Then I show them how to recover it, and the actual PW is sent to their email, they looked at it and go "oh, I thought it was something else". You know how often that happened? A lot more than zero.

[Jojoya]

Or maybe we simply want to see some actual "proof" before we believe the accusation? Like other had said, no matter how many time this come up people never produce any kind of proof beyond the " just trust me bro" level.

How many players are going to think they're going to need provide proof they entered their house on X day when simply entering is supposed to reset the demo timer? Most aren't even aware this sort of thing happens because they don't visit the forums or reddit or any other places it gets discussed.

I know there's some sort of bug because of personal experience not as the owner but as the tenant on two different occasions.

First time is when my friend couldn't play for a few weeks when his PS4 was destroyed by water damage during a storm. He needed to wait for an insurance payout before he could buy a replacement. Once he had the replacement, he logged into game to get things caught back up and entering his house was part of his routine. I noticed on my alt that the demolition was still pending the next day and sent him a tell to remind him to go into his house to reset the timer. He replied "wtf I was just in it last night" so I said it still shows. He checks his Estate timer and sure enough it still shows. He goes back in.

When a friend is standing in their house but the Estate Timer for both their character and my character shows that their house is still pending demolition, there is a problem. The notification disappeared once he interacted with his Mender. At the time, I didn't think much of it because I wasn't yet aware of how many other players had experienced the reset problem or I most definitely would have taken screenshots.

Same thing happened to another friend last year. He had logged in one night specifically to reset his timer because he was just getting back from a two week trip and was about to be gone for another 7-10 days helping family take care of things following a death. That ended up extended a week longer than he expected and during that time the pending demolition popped up on my character's Estate timer. It wasn't a matter of we weren't remembering the dates correctly - there was discussion about his family situation in the FC discord that confirmed the time frame.

There is some sort of bug but it's hard to say what is causing it. A GM isn't going to be able to confirm entry was made if the system never saved the data for that entry in the first place.

This is the point where I'm going to state that there is still some responsibility on the player side. If the house is so important to you, why are you entering it so infrequently that it even reaches the point of pending demolition? There's an excellent chance that this bug has affected every house owner but because most house owners are entering their houses on a regular basis, their demo timer is getting successfully reset on those occasions the bug doesn't happen so they never reach the point of pending demolition.

If your house is that important to you, then make use of it when you play instead of ignoring it for weeks at a time. If you're not using it, do the responsible thing and relinquish it. Let it demo so you get 80% of your gil back. If players wouldn't hold onto houses they aren't using, it would be easier for those who want to use a house to get one - and for those who lose their house due to this bug to get another when they're able to play on a regular basis again.

You don’t need to interact with anything you only need to enter.
And unlike others who will make claims about how it works, I can provide a demonstrative example.

https://youtu.be/rTZv40DHoo4?si=dWQ-qCOC7gZn707x

As you can see, simply entering the building gives you a message about the timer being reset if you close enough to start being warned.

Yes, it worked as intended on that specific occasion. It doesn't mean that it works as intended every single time an owner enters their house.

This would be a good features. Just put it in the housing menu under Estate Settings or something. In virtually every case this topic gets brought up, it's always the person misremembering the demo timer or that one rare case where the guy crafted in his yard but never in his actual house. So making that more viewable would be nice.

I would like to see the Estate Timer reflect the date and time of last recorded entry by owner in addition to the demolition status. If that information was listed, it could be helpful in tracking down the bug and getting it fixed or at least help players avoid demolition by letting them know it did not reset on the last entry.

[LianaThorne]

How many players are going to think they're going to need provide proof they entered their house on X day when simply entering is supposed to reset the demo timer?

This is literally why there isn't proof.

People, for some reason, expect others to predict the future and know that they should be recording their screen because they'll be losing their house in the near future.

Like....make it make sense.