Thread: Would you like to see the current stat system revised or redone for FFXIV 2.0?

Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I've been playing since beta. I'm not questioning that stats were changed, I'm questioning what you have put forth as the reason for the changes.

So you've somehow completely missed Yoshida stating he wants classes to be more unique? You completely somehow missed them redoing class skills as well as adding in traits and the job system?

Your mind is stuck on stats lol.

Originally Posted by Elexia

So you've somehow completely missed Yoshida stating he wants classes to be more unique? You completely somehow missed them redoing class skills as well as adding in traits and the job system?

Have you already forgotten what you said earlier?

in repsonse to this:

Originally Posted by Hyrist

More importantly, if the stats are altered, I wish it's done in a way so that there is many routes to the same goal, where one person can make a Crit Build, and another a standard DPS build and the two would still come out relatively the same.

you said:

Originally Posted by Elexia

Yoshi wants to avoid this, the whole purpose he reformed the class/job system to being with.

Please find me a source. that's all i'm asking. Making classes unique doesn't negate having multiple options for gear.

Originally Posted by Elexia

The only thing the devs were against was adding a haste spell. P.S you wouldn't be able to macro gear if they were against it, just fyi.

No, they actually said that they were against swapping gear in active mode. If you haven't noticed, they've also made it so that you can't switch weapons (maybe other gear too, i haven't tried that) in the newest instances. If that doesn't tell you that gear swaps are not coming to this game, I don't know what will.

Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

No, they actually said that they were against swapping gear in active mode. If you haven't noticed, they've also made it so that you can't switch weapons (maybe other gear too, i haven't tried that) in the newest instances. If that doesn't tell you that gear swaps are not coming to this game, I don't know what will.

You also can't move while you change gear, I'm pretty sure that wasn't a purposeful design choice.

Originally Posted by Elexia

You also can't move while you change gear, I'm pretty sure that wasn't a purposeful design choice.

I'm with you on that. However, it's not even slightly important to change the way it works because moving while equipping gear wasn't intended in this game.

Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

No, they actually said that they were against swapping gear in active mode. If you haven't noticed, they've also made it so that you can't switch weapons (maybe other gear too, i haven't tried that) in the newest instances. If that doesn't tell you that gear swaps are not coming to this game, I don't know what will.

Haven't finished reading this thread yet but this is 100% truth.

Gear Swaps are not coming to this game period. The community at large hated them and this is fact. In FFXI the whole thing bordered on parody. You had so much gear that you spent the whole battle blinking in and out of existence. I'm one of the most ardent proponents of launch FFXI but Gear swapping was and is a terrible idea and has no place in a MMO in 2012.

Back to the stats, I agree that the numbers should be reworked and more transparent. In FFXI (launch - 2006/7) +5 Accuracy for example meant something. That 5 accuracy could honestly be the difference between being gimp and being properly geared.

Currently, in XIV we have ridiculous numbers on gear added to already bloated stats. +50 attack power, +50 enmity +35 strength and so on and so forth. These numbers are outrageous and if scaled the same way in 2.0 imagine the gear when they raise the level cap. +200 Strength +100 attack power ect. That is simply absurd. The stats should be scaled back to be more potent in small quantities and there should be a tutorial function in game explaining what stats do what so we don't have to go to a website to find out what dex does for example. If it is done this way there will still be experimenting with different set-ups but people will have a rough idea where to start.

Originally Posted by Elexia

P.S you wouldn't be able to macro gear if they were against it, just fyi.

I'm pretty sure they're sticking with that because re-equipping gear in this game is a hassle, so you can set up gear sets for each job you play. To use before doing any battling. Not so that you can switch a body piece to perform an ability. You're just being delusional.

Originally Posted by Ruisu

I'm pretty sure they're sticking with that because re-equipping gear in this game is a hassle, so you can set up gear sets for each job you play. To use before doing any battling. Not so that you can switch a body piece to perform an ability. You're just being delusional.

I really think the only one being delusional are people like you who think you needed to change gear to use a job ability.

Originally Posted by Elexia

I really think the only one being delusional are people like you who think you needed to change gear to use a job ability.

There's nothing delusional about it. That's what folks mean when they say gear swaps because that's what you could do in XI.

Elexia, you don't speak for Yoshi, so don't try to.

Yoshi stated that he wanted to create a balance between Raid/Drop gear and Crafted gear.

The issue with jobs has nothing to do with the stats that accompany them, they have to do with creating a distinct identity and role with each Job.

Remember that each Class is going to wind up with multiple jobs, likely each filling a different role than the others in its Class.

That's regardless of how the player uses the stats at his disposal to fill said role should be capable of being met by a variety of gear builds. Yoshi never expressed anything against this at all, and you better cite your sources if you mean to prove otherwise.

Also, there's been a firm no, from the community, on the topic of gear swapping. Actually, it's been a dead topic for a while as it's almost been considered a given that that's simply not happening.