Thread: Would you like to see the current stat system revised or redone for FFXIV 2.0?

Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

the current stats are fine... we just need more infomation such as % (percentage) :\

There's lots of information on it. Also lots of information on how even boosting yourself properly you still see minimal increases, nothing like you should see with the amount of modification you do.

Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I disagree completely, the world needs danger. It's probably a good idea not to attack that level 70 basilisk.

The world does need danger, but a basic attack should never strike you for 5000-9999 damage ever when you're at level cap.

Originally Posted by Elexia

The world does need danger, but a basic attack should never strike you for 5000-9999 damage ever when you're at level cap.

... I have yet to see a "basic" attack deal 5K+ damage

Originally Posted by Velhart

I guess you haven't come across a lv.85-99 mob yet.

Because it makes sense for a player at level cap to not get one-shot by a monster 49 levels higher.

SE will never spoon-feed you guys... The fun part of the game is to figure out how it affects your character and your actions against w/e u fighting...
To get a visible % will not change anything, bc mobs have resistance and they also build resistance... and the crit % will never work because of a stat call "decreases the chance for an enemy to land a critical hit "
The +1, +2 work like % once the community puts an effort and figures it out...
In FFXI the hardcore community, tested everything to figure out numbers and percentages... but it takes time and 1000's of mobs testeing... Like how INT and MND affected enfeebling magic... or How DEX and AGI affected on the DMG of the weapon skills...
Lets try to work as a community and figure out how a +1 will affect your whole character... in FFXI it was easier to test it on mid lvls...
But I do think the whole stat math and system will change in 2.0 since the engine and the level of difficulty is changing... Races need to be more distinguish on this aspect and have their stats boosted a little bit according the race.

I wouldn't go so far as to say they need an overhaul, but an adjustment to the dLVL curve would be advisable. Especially in terms of the Defense/Vitality calculations. They're trying to balance PLD with both hands tied behind their backs right now, and worse, by their own system. Any monster more than 10 levels above us (i.e. most end game content in existence) renders sizable differences in defense completely academic. I don't think the change needs to be severe. In fact, I quite like the concept of dLVL, but the effects are pretty crippling right now. Switching to a higher logarithmic base would work wonders.

I do tip in favor of finding stuff out and experimenting, sadly though a lot are more in favor of everything laid out to them. For some things I can understand, but a lot seem to forget that RPGs from the beginning were games of math, logic and experimentation, even since D&D days which is why only "Geeks and Nerds" were the ones who played them.

Like I said though, the main issue is not so much the stats it's mostly in the calculations of said stats, not to mention it's on an enemy by enemy basis...that throws everything out of whack rather than just a global percentage like in XI,there's too much room for variance and no way to even optimize your gear because people fear gear swapping and because materia is restricted to certain slots.

Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Sorry, I call bullshit. If you know what stats do

Once again, this is moot when it comes to the fact that it goes out the window when a monster hits a certain level above you. I know exactly what stats do and how to gear appropriately.

Whether you do or don't has nothing to do with the calculations

Has everything to do with calculations. That's how stats even mean anything essentially. ;p

Gear swapping also has nothing to do with it.

Gear Swapping serves purposes, but you seem to think knowing what stats do = everything so I guess I understand your view point.

In other words, you can find the optimal gear set in ANY system

You can, the problem isn't:

how easy is it to do so.

The problem is how retarded some BiS is for certain jobs.