Would you like to see the current stat system revised or redone for FFXIV 2.0?

**DonMega** · 07-12-2012 08:40 PM

Would you like to see the current stat system revised or redone for FFXIV 2.0? I personally would atleast like to see the the stat values dropped significantly, i think the values are way too high for my liking anyways and it just seems difficult to makes sense of how much more stats actually makes a difference to things like magic damage, melee damage, gathering, crafting etc.

**Jinko** · 07-12-2012 08:44 PM

Yes yes 100000 times yes.

I still think the stats system is pretty meaningless its better than it was at launch but could do with making upgrades be more noticable.

They really should consider removing Dlvl or making it less noticeable on the way it effects stats and remove some of the silly caps, players should beable to customise their character how they see fit.

Make hit rating (accuracy) and crit rating more prominent also.

I hope 2.0 is using completely different calculations for its stats system.

Besides this they need to make crafting stats more effective and include what recipes favour magic craftsmanship and standard craftsmanship.

**Neptune** · 07-12-2012 08:45 PM

What I'd like to see is an end to this hocus-pocus approach to stats. Do it like Blizzard; just explain what all the stats do, how they do it, what the calculations are, etc. And put a stop to +1 and stuff like that and just list the percentage. For food, drop the complexity and just give solid feedback about what items do.

**Jinko** · 07-12-2012 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Neptune

What I'd like to see is an end to this hocus-pocus approach to stats. Do it like Blizzard; just explain what all the stats do, how they do it, what the calculations are, etc. And put a stop to +1 and stuff like that and just list the percentage. For food, drop the complexity and just give solid feedback about what items do.

Agreed, it would be much better for the whole community if they were 100% transparent how calculations work, especially with the addition of Addons in 2.0 players are going to want more information.

Sometimes I wonder if they even know themselves what stats do half the time lol.

**Neptune** · 07-12-2012 08:53 PM

100% transparency. Yep. That's what we need.

**Holy_Dragoon** · 07-12-2012 09:12 PM

I'm going to request no to this. Padding your stats is noticeable, just ask any proper thm/blm. Making everything transparent would not be very Final Fantasy either.

**Jinko** · 07-12-2012 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon

Making everything transparent would not be very Final Fantasy either.

LOL, rrrright !

Thoughts like that are only going to hold this game back from being a success.

Although which Final Fantasy are you referring to, as stats have always been pretty clear in the offline games. (not that you could effect them in many ways)

**rina_inverse** · 07-12-2012 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by DonMega

Would you like to see the current stat system revised or redone for FFXIV 2.0? I personally would atleast like to see the the stat values dropped significantly, i think the values are way too high for my liking anyways and it just seems difficult to makes sense of how much more stats actually makes a difference to things like magic damage, melee damage, gathering, crafting etc.

Im sorry, can you explain what do you mean here? serious question

And Im against stripping eveything. I dont need transparancy. I dont want everything to be spoon-fed to me
+1 item, Im also against abolishing this. Before this, crafting HQ is seems like random, and now its more straight forward. We can clearly see the path, how difficult it, assess out skills. +1 items is challenge to player and it shouldnt be remove
And how is food suppose to be difficult? complex? we have a fan made list for that (which i applaud btw). I like this kind of approach. Give the player a shortcut, but make the shortcut difficult. Again, more challenge

**Jinko** · 07-12-2012 09:30 PM

Spoon fed ?, ...Rina you disappoint me at times

**rina_inverse** · 07-12-2012 09:35 PM

Jinko, In my opinion, theres two type of player
Those who play for fun
and those who play to achieve something

And if I want to achieve something, I dont want it to be spoon-fed to me

Originally Posted by Jinko

LOL, rrrright !

Thoughts like that are only going to hold this game back from being a success.

Although which Final Fantasy are you referring to, as stats have always been pretty clear in the offline games. (not that you could effect them in many ways)

But their stats can be affected by some ways
Esper in VI
Materia and Ups in VII
Junction and Plus in VIII
Level up bonus from gear in IX

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