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  1. #41
    Player RyanCousland's Avatar
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    splatoon animations are not very appealing

    in all honesty picto should have been the limited job, its not just the animations that feel off but there multiple things that just kinda throw off the vibe of the game.

    1: the fact kriel couldnt have been the sch now that alphinuad is sge. to me itd make sense not only is she a plainsfolk but also an academic

    2: im gonna assume they'll tie its lore with toral just like viper (im not gonna opine on this yet)

    3: gameplay they've already said its not gonna be able to rez, as well as not do damage like blm (for obvious reasons) so unless they plan on making like the vid (posted below) i dont see where this job fits in the caster line up, granted im not caster main so maybe it'll find its home in pvp or just the casual space which isnt an issue i guess

    4: ironically having it as a non limited job seems like it'll limit the creativity of what the job could have been capable of, hell they could have even tied the sight seeing aspect of the game to the job

    all in all i'll have to wait & see but the 1st impression i got isnt something i'm excited for

    https://youtu.be/KiA-ipPAlgI?si=hQlhVJC4cD4y6DpH
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanCousland View Post
    in all honesty picto should have been the limited job, its not just the animations that feel off but there multiple things that just kinda throw of the vibe of the game.

    1: the fact kriel couldnt have been the sch now that alphinuad is sge. to me itd make sense not only is she a plainsfolk but also an academic

    2: im gonna assume they'll tie its lore with toral just like viper (im not gonna opine on this yet)

    3: gameplay they've already said its not gonna be able to rez, as well as not do damage like blm (for obvious reasons) so unless they plan on making like the vid (posted below) i dont see where this job fits in the caster line up, granted im not caster main so maybe it'll find its home in pvp or just the casual space which isnt an issue i guess

    4: ironically having it as a non limited job seems like it'll limit the creativity of what the job could have been capable of, hell they could have even tied the sight seeing aspect of the game to the job

    all in all i'll have to wait & see but the 1st impression i got isnt something i'm excited for

    https://youtu.be/KiA-ipPAlgI?si=hQlhVJC4cD4y6DpH
    Picto would be a terrible limited job… what would be the gimmick? Blue mage has learning all of their spells from enemies, and beast master is going to be Pokémon. Limited jobs each have their own gimmick to make it different.

    It should be limited because of a lack of Rez? Uh oh, someone should tell the black mages they’ve been playing a limited job this whole time. That’s where the job fits. It’ll deal similar aDPS to black mage.

    Just because you don’t like the aesthetic, doesn’t mean it should be a limited job lol.
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  3. #43
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    What school system failed me? Have you reread anything from your post? Zero capitalization and terrible grammar.

    They didn’t choose pictomancer because of Krile. Caster is long overdue for a job and this is the route they went. She would have been whichever caster they designed.

    In the end it doesn’t matter because Pictomancer isn’t a limited job lol.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sequora View Post
    What school system failed me? Have you reread anything from your post? Zero capitalization and terrible grammar.

    They didn’t choose pictomancer because of Krile. Caster is long overdue for a job and this is the route they went. She would have been whichever caster they designed.

    In the end it doesn’t matter because Pictomancer isn’t a limited job lol.
    the school system that didnt teach you reading comprehension or the distinction between punctuation and grammar, i'll put the definition here take a min to read it but in your case take the whole the day.

    gram·mar
    /ˈɡramər/
    noun: the whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general, usually taken as consisting of syntax and morphology (including inflections) and sometimes also phonology and semantics.

    as for your kriel comment, now you wanna move goalpost eh? you realize thats not even the basis of the argument but fine you might be right that she wouldve been another dps but doesnt change the fact that it'd be a terrible choice all the same.
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    You know a thread has reached a pinnacle when it's about who has the best grammar.
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    Pictomancer is not a limited job because they had a concept for making it a standard job. Simple as that.

    Catching different beasts sounds far better suited to a side-content job than a standard battle job.
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    Oh look. BRDs have side content via Performances but it isn't a limited job.

    WAR can solo even relevant content but isn't a limited job.

    So can the above-mentioned jobs better off be limited jobs for it?
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  8. #48
    Player RyanCousland's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Pictomancer is not a limited job because they had a concept for making it a standard job. Simple as that.

    Catching different beasts sounds far better suited to a side-content job than a standard battle job.
    they also had a concept for every job and look how well theyve all turned out, ill be brief in my examples because im too lazy

    PLD divine veil, DRK living dead, Every healer with 3 dps buttons, NIN reducing ogcds to make room for more GCDs in the pretext of button bloat, having positionals then slowly removing them (tbh idk how i feel about this) just because they have a concept for it doesnt mean its good and finally BLU mage collecting unique spells as form of side content then shelving the class because theres rarely (if) any unique content suited for it,

    also id rather utilize picto for sight seeing at least that way im incentivized to engage with a feature of the game that i otherwise ignore, as well as other possibilities that would further enhance the animations of the class itself
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanCousland View Post
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    I don't disagree with the idea on how picto should have been the limited job instead, but I understand why the limited job is beastmaster.
    Beastmaster I'm thinking, might be similar to bluemage in how you can store abilities (beastmaster would store pets- like you go out and grab certain monsters and keep them for different occasions??)?? idk
    As far as picto not being able to rez, there was talk of resurrect being taken away from smn & rdm so they didn't want to design another caster class with rez if they're planning on taking it away.
    I am very excited for pictomancer, I love the outfit they had but was just extremely disappointed in the in-game reveals vfx animations. It might be something where it'll feel different once we're in the game, playing the class but, I won't hold my breath. I hope they improve the vfx to look more in-line with what the DT trailer showed. (I know it likely can't reach that level of detail, but it was more lisa frank/super fantasy pretty paint while in game-was more paper cut-out stock photo of paint for kids schools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    I don't disagree with the idea on how picto should have been the limited job instead, but I understand why the limited job is beastmaster.
    Beastmaster I'm thinking, might be similar to bluemage in how you can store abilities (beastmaster would store pets- like you go out and grab certain monsters and keep them for different occasions??)?? idk
    As far as picto not being able to rez, there was talk of resurrect being taken away from smn & rdm so they didn't want to design another caster class with rez if they're planning on taking it away.
    I am very excited for pictomancer, I love the outfit they had but was just extremely disappointed in the in-game reveals vfx animations. It might be something where it'll feel different once we're in the game, playing the class but, I won't hold my breath. I hope they improve the vfx to look more in-line with what the DT trailer showed. (I know it likely can't reach that level of detail, but it was more lisa frank/super fantasy pretty paint while in game-was more paper cut-out stock photo of paint for kids schools.
    The entire beast taming can be done for log purposes but you have a "pikachu" to your Ash that will always be by your side, fight and grow with you as you level up. See how BST can be a main job and not a limited job?
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