Pictomancer animations underwhelming

[PercibelTheren]

I think the in-game effects look bad, but my main issue is how they are completely incongruous with the general art style of every single other job. Whimsical cutesy creatures, flowers and butterflies are completely fine. But what we saw in the trailer looks like something out of Splatoon. It looks jarring and the ice crystal looked weirdly low-res.

[HeyMcFly]

I think the in-game effects look bad, but my main issue is how they are completely incongruous with the general art style of every single other job. Whimsical cutesy creatures, flowers and butterflies are completely fine. But what we saw in the trailer looks like something out of Splatoon. It looks jarring and the ice crystal looked weirdly low-res.

Even with Splatoon, the paint had particle effects & was glittery- it had some texture to it so it looked like paint for the most part
with Pictomancer, it's very flat & you're absolutely right, it stands out but because it looks so detached from the rest of the game & while that can be a good thing, it's quite lackluster when it comes to Pictomancer

(image of splatoon paint, sorry for the low res) but it shows the glitter

[LynxDubh]

Even with Splatoon, the paint had particle effects & was glittery- it had some texture to it so it looked like paint for the most part
with Pictomancer, it's very flat & you're absolutely right, it stands out but because it looks so detached from the rest of the game & while that can be a good thing, it's quite lackluster when it comes to Pictomancer

(image of splatoon paint, sorry for the low res) but it shows the glitter

And the Side Order expansion for Splatoon 3 upped the style even more. The paint has cool texture, particle effects, and even cool patterns in it for the rogue-lite tower.

[george357]

this new job is still a work in progress wait till it goes live and try it out before you condemn it

[HeyMcFly]

this new job is still a work in progress wait till it goes live and try it out before you condemn it

It's better to be the squeaky wheel and say something just incase!
I'd much rather have tried and find out I was just over thinking an issue and everything turned out good regardless.
- rather than sitting and hoping things turn out well and being disappointed because noone was concerned enough or they listened to those saying "it's too early to tell, just wait!"

TL;DR
It's always a good choice to bring it to others attention instead of sitting back, waiting for someone else to do so and nothing being done

[RyanCousland]

in all honesty picto should have been the limited job, its not just the animations that feel off but there multiple things that just kinda throw off the vibe of the game.

1: the fact kriel couldnt have been the sch now that alphinuad is sge. to me itd make sense not only is she a plainsfolk but also an academic

2: im gonna assume they'll tie its lore with toral just like viper (im not gonna opine on this yet)

3: gameplay they've already said its not gonna be able to rez, as well as not do damage like blm (for obvious reasons) so unless they plan on making like the vid (posted below) i dont see where this job fits in the caster line up, granted im not caster main so maybe it'll find its home in pvp or just the casual space which isnt an issue i guess

4: ironically having it as a non limited job seems like it'll limit the creativity of what the job could have been capable of, hell they could have even tied the sight seeing aspect of the game to the job

all in all i'll have to wait & see but the 1st impression i got isnt something i'm excited for

https://youtu.be/KiA-ipPAlgI?si=hQlhVJC4cD4y6DpH

[HeyMcFly]

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I don't disagree with the idea on how picto should have been the limited job instead, but I understand why the limited job is beastmaster.
Beastmaster I'm thinking, might be similar to bluemage in how you can store abilities (beastmaster would store pets- like you go out and grab certain monsters and keep them for different occasions??)?? idk
As far as picto not being able to rez, there was talk of resurrect being taken away from smn & rdm so they didn't want to design another caster class with rez if they're planning on taking it away.
I am very excited for pictomancer, I love the outfit they had but was just extremely disappointed in the in-game reveals vfx animations. It might be something where it'll feel different once we're in the game, playing the class but, I won't hold my breath. I hope they improve the vfx to look more in-line with what the DT trailer showed. (I know it likely can't reach that level of detail, but it was more lisa frank/super fantasy pretty paint while in game-was more paper cut-out stock photo of paint for kids schools.

[rawker]

I don't disagree with the idea on how picto should have been the limited job instead, but I understand why the limited job is beastmaster.
Beastmaster I'm thinking, might be similar to bluemage in how you can store abilities (beastmaster would store pets- like you go out and grab certain monsters and keep them for different occasions??)?? idk
As far as picto not being able to rez, there was talk of resurrect being taken away from smn & rdm so they didn't want to design another caster class with rez if they're planning on taking it away.
I am very excited for pictomancer, I love the outfit they had but was just extremely disappointed in the in-game reveals vfx animations. It might be something where it'll feel different once we're in the game, playing the class but, I won't hold my breath. I hope they improve the vfx to look more in-line with what the DT trailer showed. (I know it likely can't reach that level of detail, but it was more lisa frank/super fantasy pretty paint while in game-was more paper cut-out stock photo of paint for kids schools.

The entire beast taming can be done for log purposes but you have a "pikachu" to your Ash that will always be by your side, fight and grow with you as you level up. See how BST can be a main job and not a limited job?

[HeyMcFly]

The entire beast taming can be done for log purposes but you have a "pikachu" to your Ash that will always be by your side, fight and grow with you as you level up. See how BST can be a main job and not a limited job?

I feel you didn't quite get my wording
For a recap, I said I understand why beastmaster was a limited job and then compared it to bluemage. I did not say this was the only way/one way etc. I was just giving my 2 cents because honestly, I don't care about beastmaster and haven't given it much thought
Also, this is a pictomancer related thread

[RyanCousland]

I don't disagree with the idea on how picto should have been the limited job instead, but I understand why the limited job is beastmaster.
Beastmaster I'm thinking, might be similar to bluemage in how you can store abilities (beastmaster would store pets- like you go out and grab certain monsters and keep them for different occasions??)?? idk
As far as picto not being able to rez, there was talk of resurrect being taken away from smn & rdm so they didn't want to design another caster class with rez if they're planning on taking it away.
I am very excited for pictomancer, I love the outfit they had but was just extremely disappointed in the in-game reveals vfx animations. It might be something where it'll feel different once we're in the game, playing the class but, I won't hold my breath. I hope they improve the vfx to look more in-line with what the DT trailer showed. (I know it likely can't reach that level of detail, but it was more lisa frank/super fantasy pretty paint while in game-was more paper cut-out stock photo of paint for kids schools.

an idea that comes to mind on how picto couldve been made more intresting as a limited job, is the game Okami where you as the player can interact with your environment also theres Epic mickey if some are more familiar with that ,tying this along with sight seeing would be 10x more fun than the main job gameplay where it'll be more limited plus the devs could go plus ultra on the animations due to them not conflicting with the battle content which i can guarantee will be an issue once its used in ultimate raiding, conversely i think Beast master is better suited as main job due to the pet system in place as well as comparable jobs. collecting spells & monsters is fun & all but what content lets you be able to access that jobs potential?