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    Player RyanCousland's Avatar
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    Rion Cousland
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Pictomancer is not a limited job because they had a concept for making it a standard job. Simple as that.

    Catching different beasts sounds far better suited to a side-content job than a standard battle job.
    they also had a concept for every job and look how well theyve all turned out, ill be brief in my examples because im too lazy

    PLD divine veil, DRK living dead, Every healer with 3 dps buttons, NIN reducing ogcds to make room for more GCDs in the pretext of button bloat, having positionals then slowly removing them (tbh idk how i feel about this) just because they have a concept for it doesnt mean its good and finally BLU mage collecting unique spells as form of side content then shelving the class because theres rarely (if) any unique content suited for it,

    also id rather utilize picto for sight seeing at least that way im incentivized to engage with a feature of the game that i otherwise ignore, as well as other possibilities that would further enhance the animations of the class itself
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Oh look. BRDs have side content via Performances but it isn't a limited job.

    WAR can solo even relevant content but isn't a limited job.

    So can the above-mentioned jobs better off be limited jobs for it?
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    On these forums, the only thing that people hate more than the way FF14 does things is FF14 ever doing anything differently.

    In any case, I welcome the different graphical aesthetic on PCT - it's a way to represent drawing in a world already rendered in graphics and the secret sauce of a class-based game is exactly having different classes hit different niches for players.
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    On these forums, the only thing that people hate more than the way FF14 does things is FF14 ever doing anything differently.

    In any case, I welcome the different graphical aesthetic on PCT - it's a way to represent drawing in a world already rendered in graphics and the secret sauce of a class-based game is exactly having different classes hit different niches for players.
    I look forward to pictomancer! I am hoping for some vfx sprucing up but otherwise have every intention of giving my time in DT to the class
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    Player RyanCousland's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    On these forums, the only thing that people hate more than the way FF14 does things is FF14 ever doing anything differently.

    In any case, I welcome the different graphical aesthetic on PCT - it's a way to represent drawing in a world already rendered in graphics and the secret sauce of a class-based game is exactly having different classes hit different niches for players.
    Serjo im all for doing different things, however just because its different doesnt mean its good nor is it exempt from criticism
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    Percibel Theren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    On these forums, the only thing that people hate more than the way FF14 does things is FF14 ever doing anything differently.

    In any case, I welcome the different graphical aesthetic on PCT - it's a way to represent drawing in a world already rendered in graphics and the secret sauce of a class-based game is exactly having different classes hit different niches for players.
    Different is fine. Not even remotely fitting within the rest of the game's art style, not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    Different is fine. Not even remotely fitting within the rest of the game's art style, not so much.
    The point is to be a different art style - it's depicting an art style in a game that is itself an art style. It is supposed to be to the games graphics what a drawing is to the real world, and in that respect, I think that it works very well.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Idk if is to anybody's interest but Sigmascape 2.0 Savage apparenly have assets used in the Pictomancer's actions. If not the same, quite similar to them: the splatter effects, the swirls around the paints also look very closely to the trail that the brush leaves while the pictomancer is casting.

    Then I looked upon other elements in that fight. You paint a huge boulder to block a raidwide, but that one doesn't look like the pictomancer one. There's also other elements like Siren or Typhon. I wonder if those would end up as part of the Pictomancer repertoire, since YP put out they'll be painting landscapes, monsters and weapons too.
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    Nimble Pancakes
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    Kraken
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    Botanist Lv 100
    i've been a caster main for 10 years or so... and it feels like somebody took my heart and dropped it into a bucket of boiling tears... and at the same time, somebody else is hitting my soul in the crotch with a frozen sledgehammer... and then a third guy walks in and starts punching me in the grief bone... and I'm crying, and nobody can hear me, because I'm terribly, terribly... terribly alone
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Benji41 View Post
    i've been a caster main for 10 years or so... and it feels like somebody took my heart and dropped it into a bucket of boiling tears... and at the same time, somebody else is hitting my soul in the crotch with a frozen sledgehammer... and then a third guy walks in and starts punching me in the grief bone... and I'm crying, and nobody can hear me, because I'm terribly, terribly... terribly alone
    The first one's a RDM (Verflare and Verholy), the second one is a BLM (during their Umbral Ice phase), and the third is a SMN (Titan). (◍´͈ꈊ`͈◍)
    In all seriousness, I'm curious as to why you feel this way over Pictomancer? Like, it might not be your aesthetic but I can't imagine it's inclusion will bring down all casters.
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